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Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« on: Monday 14 July 14 09:21 BST (UK) »
 My great grandmother was born 1878? Elizabeth Johnstone  daughter of Michael Johnstone and Catherine Callaghan. She was born in Pennsylvania along with one other sister. The family moved back to Huddersfield where he was a fish seller. and more children were born.
 I would like to  confirm when they moved to Pennsylvania ans when they returned to England. I would like to know how I could access birth records for my great grandmother in Pennsylvanis. She married William  Casford.
 :)  Thanking you in advance
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Re: Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 July 14 09:39 BST (UK) »
Hello and welcome to Rootschat.
Just a couple of questions so we do not duplicate work you have already done.

- Do you know the names and birth dates of the other children?

- Have you identified the family in any census on either side of the Atlantic?
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Re: Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 July 14 12:07 BST (UK) »
I can't see a Michael Johnstone in Huddersfield on any census.
Is it just me.

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Re: Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 July 14 12:32 BST (UK) »
This looks like the family with Michael widowed. 1891 - RG12 Piece 3566 Folio 75 Page 12 - Huddersfield Yorkshire

Michael J Johnston  40 Widow. Fish Salesman.
Mary E Johnston  16 Born USA
Elizabeth A Johnston  15 Born USA
James B Johnston  10 Born Huddersfield
John Wm Johnston  9 Born Huddersfield.
Alice M Johnston  7 Born Huddersfield.

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Re: Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 July 14 12:34 BST (UK) »
How certain are you that they were born in the US

If you have found this information via any Trees on Ancestry, I would take it with a pinch of salt.

We have all found family members on Ancestry trees (owned by US members), born in some remote part of the UK, marry in the UK, emigrate to the US, yet miraculously every year a child is born they come home and return to the US every time!  Then when they are dying they come home to die and are buried in the churchyard of very same remote village!!!!
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Re: Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 July 14 12:37 BST (UK) »
Pennsylvania’s Department of Health began keeping birth and death records on a statewide basis on January 1, 1906. Your search for a birth record would probably need to be done through church records - you would need to know the area of Pennsylvania that the family lived in.

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Re: Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 July 14 12:39 BST (UK) »
The 1901 census also says Elizabeth was born in the Pennyslvania United States. - RG13 Piece: 4104 Folio: 72 Page 5.

Wm Hy Casford  26 Eliz Ann Casford  23
John R Casford  1

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Re: Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 July 14 12:52 BST (UK) »
The death of Catherine seems to come under Johnston not Johnstone - Catherine Johnson - born 1850 and died 1888 Oct/Nov/Dec  - 9a 235. Huddersfield Yorkshire.

Noticed the first daughter Mary Elizabeth Johnston born about 1875 America  - UK incoming passenger lists don't start until 1878 so the family might not be recorded entering the UK with the 2 children.

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Re: Johnstone/ Callaghan england to US Pennsylvania and back to Huddersfield
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 July 14 12:53 BST (UK) »
Here they are in 1881  4384/ 67/ 32

7 Mills Yard Huddersfield

Michael Josh. Johneshaw  31 yrs  General Labourer b Ireland
 Catherine   30 yrs  b Ireland
 Mary Ellen   7 yrs  b USA British Subject
 Elizabeth Ann   5 yrs  b USA  British Subject
 Bernard   1 yr b Huddersfield

The census does look a bit like that name.

Bernard is James Barnard b 1880
Catherine dies 1888 aged 38 yrs

It would be quite likely that Michael and Catherine married in Ireland and emigrated to Pennsylvania before returning to England.
At the moment though I can't see a marriage in County Mayo - which Michael gives as p o b.

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