Re: Hull Asiatic Cholera 1849

[Bub]

Hi

I am new to this site and thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=620642.0

but we have come to a block in our family tree regarding my great great great grandmother and her family. Her name was Hannah Horrocks and she married a William Storrie in 1841. We have documentation for the marriage at Sculcoates as well as the family and where they were living at the time of the 1841 census (Upper Union Street Hull) and the names and approximate ages of the children. However by the time of the 1851 census William Storrie is living in Pocklington as a lodging housekeeper with the children (most of the names and ages tally) but  Hannah Storrie isn't listed and neither is William Storrie listed a s a widower.

My mother has never found the birth certificate of Hannah Horrocks or the death certificate of her as Hannah Storrie. I am assuming there would have been death certificates of the cholera epidemic in 1849.  I see though that Myton was one of the areas worst affected and Hannah Horrocks' youngest child (my great great grandmother Alice Maude Storrie was born at Myton in 1845). I'm also wondering what would have been the situation though if she hadn't died eg she'd left her family to live with another or had had a mental breakdown.  I would be very grateful if you could give me a few pointers in the right direction or give some suggestions as to how I might go about unsolving this mystery!

I will also be following up some of the very helpful sources listed by mike covell above.

Many thanks

[Treetotal]

Hi Bub and welcome to Rootschat...if you can give an approximate age of when Hannah and William were born and where...we can take a look for them and try to help.
Carol

[Bub]

Many thanks for your offer of help, Carol. We've never found the birth certificate of Hannah Horrocks.  She would have been born around 1805 (we don't know where) as she was aged 36 at the time of the 1841 census. She was married in Sculcoates and she, her husband William Storrie (aged 34) and her children were all living at Hull at the time of the 1841 census but she'd disappeared at the time of 1851 census without trace. I have children's names and approx ages if that's any help.
Thanks 

[Pheno]

I have a Thomas Wray (b.1821) and his wife Elizabeth Dobson both dying in Hull in the third quarter 1849 leaving 4 orphaned children following their 1840 marriage in Hull.  Not direct ancestors so haven't bought certificates but maybe I will now as I bet this is the explanation for their deaths - they lived in Myton!  Although 2 of the children lived long lives the younger 2 weren't around for the 1851 census - wonder if this was their fate too.

Pheno

[Goughy]

Hi Bub and welcome to Rootschat.  I see from your post you say in 1851 William is in Pocklington, but I found the following family living in Walker Street in 1851 which you may wish to consider

HO107; Piece: 2363; Folio: 912

Hannah Story b 1806  Beverley (Widow) Lodging House Keeper
John b 1828 Hull Stonemason
Robert b 1835 Hull Stonemason
James b 1839 Hull Stonemason
Mary b 1837 Hull Servant
Hannah b 1842 Hull Housemaid
Emma b 1845 Hull
Alice b 1847 Hull

The children tally with those listed in the 1841 Census. 

Then there is a burial as follows:

William Storry Male age 41 born 1807 Burial 24 Sept 1848  St James's Parish of Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull

Just food for thought

Goughy

[Treetotal]

I found that one too last night Goughy but couldn't post due to a power cut...here is her death:

Hannah Storey
Estimated birth year:   abt 1810
Registration Year:   1878
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death:   68
Registration district:   Sculcoates

Carol

[Treetotal]

Have you considered this one:


Name:   Hannah Horracks
Gender:   Female
Marriage Date:   28 May 1826
Marriage Place:   Sculcoates,York,England
Spouse:    William Storry
FHL Film Number:   0919441-443

Carol

[Goughy]

Carol  good find for death in 1878.  The name variants are frustrating, so hopefully she should be around in 1861 and 1871 census!

[Bub]

Wow, thanks so much for all your replies.

Goughy, that indeed seems to be them and would love to know where I could find out more. It is really strange because William was a stonemason and was listed as having his own business in the 1841 census and so the fact that his sons were stonemasons ties in perfectly.  I'm now wondering if those in Pocklington aren't the right ones after all, except it's a big coincidence that the names and ages of the children are almost exactly right (but with two new additions since the 1841 census) in this case Edward aged 6 and Alice aged 4 (Alice was my great great grandmother and tragically dies in a house fire aged 38 but that is another story, she was actually born in 1845 but the census may well be two years out).  In the 1851 census, William is listed as a lodging housekeeper and I'm wondering if this is the son (as one of the older sons he was thought of as the main householder) and this is why he's not listed as a widower. We also have daughter Hannah listed as housemaid. Of course all this information was gleaned from microfiche years ago, although my mother did go up to the record officers. Your information is virtually identical the info I have as listed in Pocklington, apart from the fact that Hannah the mother isn't mentioned which is why we thought she'd died.

Thanks so much too, Carol. Yes, that is the marriage of our Hannah Horrocks to William Story but the death information is really helpful. It may be that we disregarded that one because we were looking for a much younger Hannah Storrie/Storey.

Where can I find out more?  I was able to get onto a free ancestry forum a few years ago but I don't mind paying for one that has detailed information.

Thanks so much again!