hi Janis, certainly , adam + copperas., just been told , this is ann Hudson the 2nd , her ,m, ann adam /adams ., hummm, to continue, from, f/s, isabell baty, b, 9 july 1843,Houghton,bap,23 june 1844, bishopwearmouth.,joseph smith baty,b,4 jan 1846, bap, 7 june 1846, bishopwearmouth.,that sounds about right . thanks alan.