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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 15:47 BST (UK) »
Ooops !!

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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 16:18 BST (UK) »
Just remembered that he appears to have had 2 regimental numbers (not uncommon).
There's 192816 and 192814 - pretty sure that's right.
Theoretically they should be the same
Perhaps someone reading this can elaborate on the reasons why this occurs.

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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 17:01 BST (UK) »
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Perhaps someone reading this can elaborate on the reasons why this occurs.
Just a mistake.With so many documents to deal with these things happened.
His MIC has him as R.F.A. L/Cpl. 81890 & R.E. 192816
His service docs. have survived.
Attested 6/8/15 R.F.A.
Add: The bungalow Giggleswick Settle.
Age. 19y 7m.
Transferred to R.E. 18/7/16.
Appointed L/Cpl. 19/3/17.
Presented with 1 MM in Giggleswick 8/9/1918 (by the Vicar).
Recd. BWM & VM 3/9/21
British War Medal went to all those who served overseas 1914-18.
Victory Medal went to those who served in a theatre of war 1914-18.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 17:11 BST (UK) »
Just wondering where Oundle House,Rickwell comes into it? Maybe I'm reading it wrongly, not his address but the origin of the notification.

I think I confused this record with Thomas's....

T Scambler, Royal Engineers   192814   Lance Corporal Acting Corporal
On one search they both appeared on the same page. Odd being so close in the listing.

The Bungalow. My old history teacher lived there in the 60's (it was I believe owned by the school). An interesting building totally timber clad almost in the American or perhaps Indian colonial style with a veranda. It sits / sat in a field overlooking the golf course. Is it still the same? I wonder why Thomas was there when the farm was 2 miles away?
And why leave possessions at the farm?


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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 09:19 BST (UK) »
Jon, thank you for taking so much trouble. The documents are very interesting especially as they have survived so long. I know my brother had the MM but what his wife did with it after he died I have no idea. I do have two WW1 medals but not sure what they are for, must look them up.
Regards Helen.

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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 10:39 BST (UK) »
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Perhaps someone reading this can elaborate on the reasons why this occurs.


Just a mistake.With so many documents to deal with these things happened.
His MIC has him as R.F.A. L/Cpl. 81890 & R.E. 192816
His service docs. have survived.
Attested 6/8/15 R.F.A.
Add: The bungalow Giggleswick Settle.
Age. 19y 7m.
Transferred to R.E. 18/7/16.
Appointed L/Cpl. 19/3/17.
Presented with 1 MM in Giggleswick 8/9/1918 (by the Vicar).
Recd. BWM & VM 3/9/21
British War Medal went to all those who served overseas 1914-18.
Victory Medal went to those who served in a theatre of war 1914-18.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 18:26 BST (UK) »
Always sad to see medals split up. Worth asking if she still has it. Even if the ribbon were missing you can buy replacements. A complete medal group such as your father's has a considerable value. Not that that's a consideration, but certainly worth checking.
If you don't have the WWII medals these can still be replaced by the appropriate office (Medal records office?). I did this for my ex wife's father's medal. Or, as WWII medals were unnamed you could find second hand ones on Ebay etc. Mind you I'd prefer mint condition ones that hadn't belonged to someone else.

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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 18:33 BST (UK) »
General question to anyone who knows the answer.:

I need to forward the documents.
I can't see a way of sending a "private message" here. Is it possible?

Do not include an email address in a reply or those wretched "web crawlers" will find it and start sending junk emails to you.

If necessary I can provide my website address and you can email from there as it's a secure site.

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Re: Military Medal and Bar to Thomas Scambler II Cpl Royal Engineers Q Company
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 19:48 BST (UK) »
Assuming you want to send them to Helen just click on the page icon below her name, you can then send her a personal message with your address.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/