When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia

[judb]

Never mind, Westy - you've met lots of nice chatters and found out some other things.   

Just as a last thought on the place of birth as listed on the NAA WW1 record, I agree with others who have commented that anomalies are not uncommon.  The personal information on the attestation papers seems to be in a different hand than that of George's signature so perhaps the person taking down the particulars should have heard "Nanango"; perhaps the question was poorly articulated (perhaps "Where do you come from?') and George thought the question was related to his current address.  I can imagine the place of enlistment would have been very busy as he enlisted at Enoggera which was the site of the main reception camp for Queensland recruits for the AIF, and is still the site of one of Australia's largest military barracks.
However, we'll never know!

Judith

[Westy11]

Great idea Debra.. For the next poor soul who doesnt look for variations...

Westy11

[Westy11]

Judith

Yes I agree I did find out a range of information previously not held so good point... Your idea as to why his place of birth was not recorded correctly works for me especially as the other information was accurate.  You would have thought the person asking the question would have noticed George's accent and asked for clarification as I imagine it would have sounded British given his background. However maybe the person asking the enlistment questions wasnt a born and bred Aussie anyway?? All conjecture anyway.

No matter because as you have said: we wont ever know and it may well have been an innocent mistake rather than a deliberate inaccuracy.

Kind regards

Westy11

[Aussie1947]

Small newspaper snippets to add to things.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/20127620?searchTerm=

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/53376520?searchTerm=

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/20130452?searchTerm=

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/20012840?searchTerm=

The above item from the Brisbane Courier 27th July 1915 states that he arrived at Nanango 21 years ago and at one time owned a property, Cooindah.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/148141971?searchTerm=

Craven - Walker wedding 1899.

Gerry

[judb]

Westy11

Do you know what happened to Mabel? 

I saw that she had changed her address to Sydney in the NAA WW1 papers.  In those papers are such sad, polite letters she wrote to the authorities, even thanking some bigwig for conveying 'a kind message of sympathy from the King, Queen and the Commonwealth Government' as well as expressing her thankfulness that he died on board a hospital ship 'cared for at the last'.  Such acceptance! She did not know where he had been buried even as late as 1919. 

Oh, the war to end all wars....................

Judith

[~MERLIN~]

Do you know what happened to Mabel?

Never remarried & died in NSW:

CRAVEN Mabel Ellen d. 1949 MARRICKVILLE #10762
Parents: William & Elizabeth

Death notices:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27577972

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49684431

[Westy11]

Hello Merlin, Judith & Gerry

Thanks once again for your assistance and leads.  I had read the letters Mabel wrote to the war office and I too was amazed by the tone of her letters [polite and gracious]. George as we now realise lasted just 2 and a half months after leaving the shores of Australia and many may not have even lasted that long.  George was buried at sea.  Before finding that out I had not realised that men who died on these ships would have been 'buried' at sea.  The term seems to be a bit of an anomaly to me.

So incredibly sad....

As to what became of Mabel: I hadn't completed my research so thanks for that information.

Many thanks also for the hyperlinks to the newspaper articles.

Thanks once again to one and all.  Rootschat forum "the gift that keeps on giving'...

Westy11

[Aussie1947]

Hi,
Some trivia.

You maybe aware that George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven a grazier of Cooinda Jumma near Jimbour was in partnership with George Hay Hives of Sandy Creek near Mondure as "Hives and Craven" and the partnership was dissolved by mutual consent on 12 December 1902. Ref: Qld Gov Gazette, 13th Dec 1902 page 1320.

Gerry

[Westy11]

Hi Gerry

Thanks for that Gerry.  George Hay Hives was George's best man at his and Mabel's wedding.  Its great to connect the dots....

Westy11