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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #36 on: Friday 11 July 14 02:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks JM.  I have sent an email and will post the results when to hand.  Enjoy Bundaberg!

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #37 on: Friday 11 July 14 09:14 BST (UK) »
Hi JM

Contacted the Bundaberg Genealogical Society and the response received is "I have looked at George Craven's WWI records on the National Archives website to see the writing of the place of birth.  It certainly looks like 'Menangle' to me.  I have tried searching place names in Australia and the best is a 'Menangle Station' in NSW.  I can find nothing that remotely corresponds in Qld.

I also checked the Qld birth records and there is no record of a birth for anyone of that name in Qld or NSW.  The marriage to Mabel Walker is there on 01 Mar 1899.

I looked at Ancestry and there are many family trees with George in them.  They all have his place of birth as Glamorgan, Wales.  This appears to be confirmed in the GRO Index of Births - George Fulwar L Craven born March Q 1875 Brigend Reg Dist Vol 11a Page 613 - and also by the 1881 Census.  He is recorded with his parents, siblings, and his paternal grandfather, living on his grandfather's farm in Gloucestershire.

I cannot say why he would not name his real place of birth.  The closest that I can come to that name is a place called Gebangle in the Burnett area."

Most interesting!

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #38 on: Friday 11 July 14 13:30 BST (UK) »
They are a good lot there, prompt and helpful.   I will ask around re Gebangle  ;) 

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #39 on: Friday 11 July 14 13:36 BST (UK) »
Hi JM

Thanks so much - so fascinating.  Enjoy your Bundaberg trip.

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #40 on: Friday 11 July 14 14:09 BST (UK) »
Incidentally on the findmypast index passenger lists leaving the UK, I think you can find him under "G F L Gaven".  (on the Tara)  - probably if you look at the image it's just a matter of mistranscription.

Do you have a copy of his father's will? Is he specifically named there or is the estate just divided up among the kids?
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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #41 on: Friday 11 July 14 14:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Jorose

Thanks for that - I should have thought of that variation... :-[

I don't have his father's will but by account of newspaper articles the estate went to the eldest son.

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #42 on: Friday 11 July 14 14:43 BST (UK) »
Ancestry also shows G F L Craven, gentleman, single adult male, aboard the Tara, ticketed to 'M'boro' (presumably Maryborough).  Tara's passenger list was signed off in London, June 20, 1893.

It is, as Jorose said, easy to see why it may have been transcribed as 'Gaven".

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #43 on: Friday 11 July 14 14:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Judith

When the conundrum is finally solved and I look back and wonder why I couldn't see it anyway as it is now so obvious.... :-[

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #44 on: Friday 11 July 14 15:10 BST (UK) »
I have added a correction to the UK outbound index on Ancestry (just in case anyone else is looking  ;D )

The Queensland manifest says just "F.L."

Page 21

http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/ImmigrationIndexes/Documents/Tara_1890_Aug_to_1893_Aug_QSA_Item_18488.pdf

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