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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 10 July 14 08:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Merlin

A great find and further supporting evidence.  As to his arrival I do not know if he came to Queensland from UK or came to somewhere else in Australia from the UK.

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 10 July 14 08:40 BST (UK) »

This site.....

http://www.awm.gov.au/people/roll-search/roll_of_honour/

then........Roll of Honour...with view this circular....link

has him arrived in Australia age 18, also mention of Major Gerald Craven RICARDO  Donnington, Berks. as contact for information.   (my correction at Gerald)

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 10 July 14 09:08 BST (UK) »
Wivenhoe

That is really great.  I am amazed I missed that as I had been on that site previously...   :-[

Thank you so much as that puts his year of arrival at around 1893. 
 
Do you know a site or 2 that has shipping records for arrivals in Australia???  I will go back and see if there is anything out of the UK around 1893.

Gerald Craven RICARDO is a distant cousin of George and one of the Executors of George's father's Will.

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 10 July 14 09:17 BST (UK) »
Merlin gave this information:
other training at Colonial College, Hollesley Bay, Suffolk, England.

It's interesting to read abuot the use of the College from 1887:
Hollesley Bay began in 1887 as a colonial college training those intending to emigrate, housing a labour colony for the London unemployed. In 1905 the land was transferred to the London Unemployed Fund, who in turn handed it over to the Central Unemployed Body for London. Subsequently it was taken over by London County Council.

There was a number of similar labour colonies across Britain. Their aim was to train unemployed people for work, with a view to helping them escape pauperism. Hollesley Bay was typical in that it mainly involved exposing its inmates to a period of work either on agricultural tasks or in the kitchens and other relatively unskilled activities.  (It is now a prison)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Hollesley_Bay

There are a number of references here, although I think you may need a subscripton.
http://www.connectedhistories.org/Search_results.aspx?pc=Hollesley&sr=bu&st=120&dtf=1600-01-01&dtt=1699-12-31

Perhaps the College arranged passages

Judith



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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 10 July 14 09:55 BST (UK) »
Copy of original passenger manifest online at QSA:

www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/ImmigrationIndexes/Documents/Tara_1890_Aug_to_1893_Aug_QSA_Item_18488.pdf

F L CRAVEN (page 487)
Maryborough Depot - Lists of Immigrants arriving 14 Aug, 1893
Tara - Port of London - Capt. D Campbell

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 10 July 14 09:57 BST (UK) »
Hi,

1900 Queensland State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Burnett
Nanago Division
Craven George Fulwar, age 22, subdiv 2, por 1v, Par, Burrandowan, grazier.
Qualified by residence, 1th Oct 1897.

His age 22 would have been when he qualified to register in 1897.  Being a British Subject he would have had to reside in the electorate for a period to qualify, I'm guessing at 3 months. He was in Queensland by 1897.

Gerry


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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 10 July 14 09:57 BST (UK) »
There is an entry in Armorial Families : a Directory of Gentlemen of Coat-Armour for George Fulwar LLewellyn COLQUITT-CRAVEN, b 1875, describing his coat of arms.  Parents given are those already mentioned.
http://www.mocavo.com/Armorial-Families-a-Directory-of-Gentlemen-of-Coat-Armour-Volume-1/713318/462

The mention of his father in the letter in the NAA WW1 files describes his father as "Captain". George's rank in the AIF was "Private".  There is no mention in the marriage report of his parents or other relatives.  If he was an 'ordinary' attendee at the Colonial College at Hollesley Bay that doesn't fit well either, with his apparent background.  Purely speculation but I wonder if he 'fell out' with his family  and did not wish to acknowledge his background on entering the Australian Army.

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 10 July 14 09:58 BST (UK) »
The Brisbane Courier 17 Aug 1893

Aug 10  Tara R.M.S, 1712 tons, Captain D Campbell R.N.R., from London, via ports.
Passengers: Colonel Povah and family, Mrs Russell Chute, Mr S H Smyth, Mrs Richardson, and 6 in the steerage.  B I and Q A Company Ltd

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Re: When & where did George Fulwar Llewellyn Craven arrive in Australia
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