1851 census

[Ripper]

Hi
Is anyone aware of any Streets/areas that got missed off the 1851 London census or that were lost?
Especially in the Clerkenwell/Islington/Southwark areas.
Thanks in advance

[keyboard86]

Hi I am aware of problems with the 1861, but not the 1851? Have you any names, ages, places of birth for the people you are looking for?

Keyboard86

[Ripper]

Hi Keyboard 86
The family I'm looking for are William Williams born about 1808 in North Wales and his wife Ann (Knight) born in Devon in 1813
Head hitting brick wall!
They 'should' have been in or around Harp Alley at the time
Thank you for your interest

[tomm]

Hi Ripper

William Williams, birth C 1808,  Denbighshire

It looks like he married twice,  First wife Mary Douglas, whom he married 5th Aug 1828 and had two children: Thomas R Williams 1829 and Mary Ann Williams 1830
Ann Knight bore him 7 children, from 1837 to 1857.
His occupation was Hairdresser, In 1839 he was living at 17 Gravel lane, Southwark, age 31.
From 1841 through to 1846 he lived at 21 Harp Alley, St Brides.
Death, Feb 1865,17 Compton Street, Clerkenwell, London

Tom

[Ripper]

Thank you Tom. Yes that's the right William Williams but I really need to find him in the 1851 census. I'm also trying to find his marriage to his second wife Ann Knight

[tomm]

Hi Ripper

I can't seem to find your family on the 1851 either, also drawn a blank with Ann's marriage.

I'm wondering if Ann just took the name Williams and lived with it until the end, I'm
afraid it was quite common in those days.

Regards

Tom

[Ripper]

Thanks Tom, it's the conclusion I'm beginning to think is right!
Thanks again for your help

[DewiSant55]

Ripper was very kindly researching the Williams family for me. William Williams was my great great grandfather.

Since 2014 I have found two more children (born May 1848 and July 1852) of William and Ann Williams and both birth certificates give the family's address as 28 St John Street Road, Clerkenwell. It seems reasonable to assume that the family was living there for the 1851 census but I have checked the entry and for that address and it lists two families, neither of them Williams. My conclusion is that the enumerator either missed them or mislaid the sheet on which he recorded their details before drawing up the schedule.

Can I ask tomm where you found the information in your post of 9 July 2014, particularly William's age in 1839? I thought I'd found all the relevant directories but none gives ages so I'd love to know where you got his age from. It may well have come from my own tree (N D D Williams 2011) on Ancestry but I'd like to be sure. Many thanks.