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Help to determine Regiment
« on: Sunday 06 July 14 08:56 BST (UK) »
I have just been given this photo of my great-great grandfather. Can someone possibly tell me what WW1 Regiment he was in? I am unable to clearly see the insignia on his cap. Many thanks
Jackson/Kent, Sheldwich, Faversham, Whitstable
Sharkey/Dublin
Taylor/Lancs, Manchester, Newton Heath
Child/Kent, Whitstable 
Child/Sussex, Brighton
Pagden, Alfriston

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Re: Help to determine Regiment
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 July 14 09:46 BST (UK) »
Hi

The Cap Badge looks like  the " General Service Corps 1908/1935 ".

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Re: Help to determine Regiment
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 July 14 09:52 BST (UK) »
With the scroll underneath its possibly Manchester regiment
Are they Boer War ribbons?

Ady
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Researching all Great War soldiers from the Spen Valley of West Yorkshire Especially lads from the Cleckheaton Company of 1/4th West Riding Regiment.

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Re: Help to determine Regiment
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 July 14 10:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you both,

No, it is not the Boer War but WWI.
Undoubtedly a Manchester link, as Samuel Oliver lived in Newton Heath. I think that there is an "oak" tree in the centre? Given Samuel's age at the time, could he have belonged to some sort of territorial unit?
Jackson/Kent, Sheldwich, Faversham, Whitstable
Sharkey/Dublin
Taylor/Lancs, Manchester, Newton Heath
Child/Kent, Whitstable 
Child/Sussex, Brighton
Pagden, Alfriston

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Re: Help to determine Regiment
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 July 14 10:25 BST (UK) »
Hi, did he see service prior to WWI? as Ady ask's regarding possible Boar war ribbons and your comment regarding his age, could he have served prior to the outbreak of the first world war.

Frank.
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Re: Help to determine Regiment
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 July 14 11:16 BST (UK) »
Frank,

No, as far as I know, Samuel did not serve before WW I.
I must admit, I don't know much about him as my grandfather was raised by his own grandparents and never spoke of his parents and other brother and sisters! These family members have only come to light in the past few weeks!
Jackson/Kent, Sheldwich, Faversham, Whitstable
Sharkey/Dublin
Taylor/Lancs, Manchester, Newton Heath
Child/Kent, Whitstable 
Child/Sussex, Brighton
Pagden, Alfriston

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Re: Help to determine Regiment
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 July 14 15:57 BST (UK) »
I have a cunning plan!

If you have a look at the National Archive medal card index there are 46 entries for Samuel Oliver.  By a process of elimination you can check the regiment cap badges and discard all those which don't match the photo and hopefully be left with the right one.

Incidentally, there are on the index:
 Medal card of Oliver, Samuel H R. Corps: Manchester Regiment. Regiment No: 47260. Rank: Private
Medal card of Oliver, Samuel W. Corps: Manchester Regiment. Regiment No: 53356. Rank: Private. which might be your man.

Good hunting!
Philip
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Re: Help to determine Regiment
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 July 14 17:22 BST (UK) »
Philip,

I think I have now exhausted every card in the National Archives and have possibly found "my" Samuel Oliver Taylor. Regiment 230 N° 201106, Private, Rifle Brigade.
But, which Rifle Brigade? enlisted when? discharged when? served where? All these questions promise more long hours of frustrating and fascinating research.

Thank you all for your interest and help
Jackson/Kent, Sheldwich, Faversham, Whitstable
Sharkey/Dublin
Taylor/Lancs, Manchester, Newton Heath
Child/Kent, Whitstable 
Child/Sussex, Brighton
Pagden, Alfriston

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Re: Help to determine Regiment
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 July 14 17:55 BST (UK) »
Hi, There is a bit more information here on the "Manchester's",

just a bit more "Frustration" for you  ;D don't you just love genealogy  ;D

Regards.
Frank  :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Regiment
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