PATRICK HORGAN / CATHERINE McDERMOT CORK. EMIGRATED TO USA LATE 1800'S

[MAMC]

I wouldn't put 100% stock in the immigration date, because memories fade and he may not have been the one to give the information anyway.  My husband has ancestors who gave a different year of immigration for every census.

Also, people did immigrate young in those days, so I don't think 15 wouldn't have been out of the question.

Hopefully, we can rule in or out this Patrick one way or another.

Do the Army records that said Patrick went to the US have any further detail?

Hi Shellyesq,
Would love if this was My Patrick but I suppose I will never know for sure.  What I do know is that Patrick was born in Cork Ireland to John Horgan and Mary Horgan (nee Leahy) in June 1859. In the 1911 Census Mary has 3 living children the youngest being my Granfather Francis.  This I think is sad as Mary and John had 14 children born alive and so they must have buried 11 children.  In the 1901 census Mary is living with her son Francis and there is no mention of any other family members. All it says in my Granfathers Army Records is that Patrick  was in the" U.S  America" and Daniel was in London.  So it's only a few years ago that I realised these people even existed.  Since then I have made a few attempts to try and discove where exactly they went to.  I suppose my chances of ever tracing them are slim to nil.  Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.

[shellyesq]

A death record may list his parents' names, so you could try ordering the possible death certificates I mentioned above to see if either is a match.  You may be able to use the Family History Library's photoduplication services - https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services

[MAMC]

A death record may list his parents' names, so you could try ordering the possible death certificates I mentioned above to see if either is a match.  You may be able to use the Family History Library's photoduplication services - https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services

It would be wonderful if a death record did list the parents names.  Will give it a try.

[Ewennlund]

Hi,

I came across this forum while I was researching my great-grandmother (Grace Rita Neyland nee Horgan). I believe she is the daughter of Patrick Horgan/Catherine McDermot you are referring to from Cork, Ireland. Grace Rita was born November 29, 1897 in NYC.

I would love to talk further about our family.

[MAMC]

Hi to you,

Delighted you made contact.  What a lovely surprise.  This is what I have regarding  my Patrick Horgan.  He was born in Cork, Ireland on 11/06/1859.  Baptised in St. Peter and Pauls Church, Cork on 12/06/1859.  I have a Marriage for a Patrick Horgan ( not absolutely certain this is the same man)   and Catherine McDermott in St. Peter and Pauls Church, Cork on 14/06/1879.

All this comes as a result of a line on my Grand Father Francis Horgan's army records which states in a family section that he had a brother named Patrick in USA.  This would have been about 1914. So if these two are brothers, Patrick emigrated to the USA between 1879 and 1914. As my Grand Father was the youngest of the family and was deceased long before I was born I don't have anything handed down as word of mouth and don't have any information on Patrick after he reached the USA.   
 

Hope this may be of some assistance to you and if so can fill you in on some further details.

Best Wishes.

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Did you look for Civil Reg of Marriage?

LINK   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oul/

Certs are Free from Irish Govt BDM website

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Cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11070/8050467.pdf

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Birth, Marriage and Death results for Horgan of Cork

LINK  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oum/

There are a lot but you can look by Decade and then Births or whatever in that Decade.

Ages at death are shown.

Births also show mother's maiden name.


https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line  explains years covered etc

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You will find some with   Returns Page No and these don't have Images of Certs at moment.


Use Link above every few months if you want to check for updated ones.

[Ewennlund]

Thank you for the quick response! It was a shot in the dark to message you, and I am so happy I did!

I confirmed the birthday date and it matches my Patrick's (2nd great-grandfather). The story I was always told of how our family emigrated from Cork, Ireland to New York City was nothing short of an Irish folk tale. My great-grandmother was known for her story-telling, but I've always believed the story that was passed down.

I am visiting my father this week and I promise I will give you as much information as possible. I am going to show him all of the information covered in this thread and he'll be able to confirm and add additional information.

Sincerely,
Erica