Paisley parish baptism - Edwards

[goldie61]

Just some thoughts.
Do you know any of Samuel's siblings?
Do any of them live nearby in any of the Censuses? It often pays to look who lives in the same street as the people you're looking for. They might give a clue to where their parents lived. Perhaps they (the parents) moved around quite a lot. Maybe Samuel always thought he was born in Paisley, but actually wasn't.
What was Samuel's occupation? That sometimes helps.
I don't suppose it gave his father's occupation on his marriage record in Flintshire?
Or any witnesses names? Was it by banns or licence?

[Ali M]

Hi there,

I know very little of Samuel prior to his marriage.  in the 1841 census my 2x great gran and Samuel's daughter ann Elizabeth born 1819 is possibly living with/ working for / visiting a Hugh Edwards innkeeper. It is very near where she lived after her marriage.  He could be Samuel's brother.  but there is at least on other Anne Eliz Edwards of a similar age and I'm not sure it is her.   When his children were born his occupation was always labourer  but on Ann eliz's marriage cert he is an engineer.  Another anomaly but  yes I am certain it is the same man (because, for eg, his wife is living with Ane E's sister and marriage witness in 61)

A marriage witness for Samuel and Sarah nee Jones' marriage in Holywell   was her brother another Hugh - no Edwards witnesses though. . married by banns and both otp.  (sarah was definitely born there.) and no - no occupation for Samuel. 
Not a great deal to go on I'm afraid.

best wishes, Alison

[Ali M]

Samuel and Sarah were married by banns in Holywell and both were listed otp. One witness was Sarah's bother Hugh Jones,  the other I don't remember (not at home to check) but wasn't an Edwards.  No occupation for Sam on marriage cert.  for all his children's baptisms he is listed as a labourer but on my 2x gt gran Anne Elizabeth's wedding cert his occupation is given as engineer - another anomaly!   I'm certain that this Samuel is my Ann Eliz's father because her marriage witness was her sister Sarah by then mrs Roberts.  Samuels wife Sarah  is living with this Sarah Roberts & her husband (Mother in law on census) in 1861.

I don't know of any of Sam's siblings BUT an   Anne Elizabeth Edwards of the right age   is staying with/ working for a Hugh Edwards , innkeeper just down the road from her married address.  If this is my Anne E then hugh might be Samuel's brother.

All in all not much help

[loobylooayr]

Hi again.
Ann Elizabeth may have "upgraded"Samuel's occupation when she married , people could be ecconomical with the truth, or bend the facts to suit .

Sorry for asking this but I thought I'd better double check - Are you looking at the original handwritten 1851 Census?
The reason I ask is the often people rely on transcriptions and naturally a name or place name can be mistranscribed. I notice you say Sarah is also recorded as being born in Paisley when she most certainly wasn't - where exactly was she born?

Looby

[ColC]

All Scottish records are available on the following low cost pay to view site:

 http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

However I did a check on your information and no Samuel Edwards born in Scotland?

Colin

[loobylooayr]

Ali - I found this baptism  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCRV-M46
Have you ruled this one out?
Saml Edwards baptised 5th Aug 1887 Holywell Flintshire .

Looby

Amended - Thanks Goldie  - above is a typo - the baptism is 1787 .

[loobylooayr]

Another thread active on this topic - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=690983.new#new

 

Topics merged

[Ali M]

Hi Colin,
many thanks for this info
best wishes
Alison

[Ali M]

Hi Looby, 

yes, I did look at the original - you're quite right there are some very "interesting" transcriptions!

Someone told me about the 1787 Paisley record but the parents were different unfortunately.

thanks again for your help
Alison