Completed with Thanks - Some help deciphering... Gilbert, Gilchrist or Gildnel?

[tuppence_123]

I know there's not much to go on but does anyone know where these photos could have been taken?  There has been a suggestion that it could be India but so far I haven't come across anyone in the family who went there.

The writing is on the back of the photo with just the couple it in.  It is really just the name we can't figure out - it doesn't look like any of the family names we know of (although there are family ties to Blackburn).  Don't even know who wrote it or when.

Cathryn

[Emmeline]

Hello tuppence

Looks to be Walter Gildnel but not 100% sure on this..........

[avm228]

I read it as:

This is Walter Geldart and I believe his wife, a Blackburn girl I believe, but I never knew her.

[gennig]

Hello Tuppence

I think maybe Walter Gilbert or Gilchrist, could be a surname but also could be a middle name.
Have you researched any of the Walter's in your family.
It looks like India to me.

Cheers
Genni

[avm228]

I read it as:

This is Walter Geldart and I believe his wife, a Blackburn girl I believe, but I never knew her.

Following up on this, a Walter Geldart, Gent, and Mrs Geldart sailed London-Bombay on the Persia departing 28 Oct 1909.

They may have been newlyweds.  A marriage shows up in Dec qtr 1909 Blackburn between Walter Geldart and either Rebecca Sandham Wrigley or Janet Boyle.

LancashireBMD shows Walter married Janet Boyle at St Silas, Blackburn.

[avm228]

Manchester Courier, 9 Oct 1909

Marriages

Geldart-Boyle: On October 6th, at St Silas Church, Barnsley, by the Rev E J Bardsley, M.A., Walter Geldart, of Bombay, elder son of Mr H.M. Geldart of Old Trafford, and Jennie, second daughter of Mr & Mrs Robert Boyle, Limefield, Blackburn.

[tuppence_123]

Thank you for the replies, but it just makes it more mysterious why these photos are in my mother's very small collection of family photos.

The only Walters connected with my family that I have come across so far are a Walter Stirrup born in 1865, who was a nephew to my great great grandfather William Stirrup, and that Walter's son, Walter Cunliffe Stirrup who was born in 1890.  Try as I might, I can't make the name on the back of the photo match either of those 2 Walters!

I can't find any connection with the name Gilbert, Gilchrist or Gildnel.

As far as the Walter Geldart who married Janet Boyle are concerned:  Walter's grandfather apparently was a boot and shoe maker in Blackburn, as was my great great grandfather William. Walter's birth in 1876 would make him a contemporary of William's children.  Perhaps he was a friend of my great grandfather Reginald but if he was that good a friend as to send back photos from India you'd think that Reginald would at least know what his wife's name was, even if he hadn't met her.  With Janet, her mother's maiden name was Haworth.  William Stirrup's mother had a sister Jane who married a Thomas Howarth, and on a quick back check Jane is possibly Janet's great great grandmother.

So the who and the where may have been discovered, but now the question is why these photos have been kept and passed on in a very small bundle of family photos when the link appears to be very remote, when there are no photos of close relatives.

Cathryn

[Phyl1952]

Hi my name is Phillippa, I was looking into my grandparents history and typed in their marriage details and your post came up. The photos you have are my grandparents Walter and Jennie Geldart they went to India shortly after their marriage. They were married on the 6-10-1909 at St Silas church Blackburn. I have alot of similar photos of them in India. 

Kind regards

Phillippa