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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:14 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage

Marriages Sep 1853   
 
MOTHERSOLE    William Elwen        Thingoe    4a   597    
PARISH    Caroline       
 
Thingoe covers Timworth where Caroline was born.
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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #10 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:15 BST (UK) »
Quote from: groom on Monday 16 June 14 12:14 BST (UK)
Possible marriage

Marriages Sep 1853   
 
MOTHERSOLE    William Elwen        Thingoe    4a   597    
PARISH    Caroline       
 
Thingoe covers Timworth where Caroline was born.

Excellent - possible baptism for Caroline in Timworth, 1833:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKS2-B57
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #11 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:16 BST (UK) »
Can't see them in 1861?

So, 1841 census: Class: HO107; Piece: 1036; Book: 13; Folio: 8; Page: 9
Street, Great Livermere, Suffolk

Mothersole, William  M  40  Bricklkayer
Mothersole, Susan  F  45
Mothersole, Henry  M  20
Mothersole, Lucretia  F  12
Mothersole, William  M  9
Mothersole, Denis  M  7    All born in county

and remembering that adult ages on the 1841 census were usually rounded down to a multiple of 5 years!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #12 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:17 BST (UK) »
Perhaps this then is William's baptism in 1832, mistranscribed as Wothersole:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NY3F-ZBX
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #13 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:21 BST (UK) »
1851 Census: Class: HO107; Piece: 1474; Folio: 322; Page: 4
6 Ellis Street, Chelsea, Middlesex

Mothersole, George  Head  M  29  Bricklayer  b Livermere, Suffolk
Mothersole, William  Brother  M  17  Bricklayer  b Livermere, Suffolk
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #14 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:23 BST (UK) »
1861 transcribed as Methersole
Tayfen Road  Bury St Edmunds

William   Methersole   Husband   Married   Male   28       Bricklayer   Great Livermere, Suffolk   
Caroline   Methersole   Wife   Married   Female   27                       Timworth, Suffolk    
Henry   Methersole   Son   -   Male   7                                      Timworth, Suffolk   
Esther   Methersole   Daughter   -   Female   5                         Timworth, Suffolk      
Catherine   Methersole   Daughter   -   Female   3                         Bury St Edmunds    
William   Methersole   Son   -   Male   1                                        Bury St Edmunds
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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #15 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:28 BST (UK) »
Perhaps they were a little forgetful in 1881 when they all were said to have been born in Berkhamsted!

Here's a baptism for the son William in Bury St Edmunds in 1859:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N5YB-XY4
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:31 BST (UK) »
William (snr) died as William E Mothersole aged 58, Sep qtr 1890 Berkhampstead.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Edwin Mothersole
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 June 14 12:32 BST (UK) »
Quote from: avm228 on Monday 16 June 14 12:28 BST (UK)
Perhaps they were a little forgetful in 1881 when they all were said to have been born in Berkhamsted!


More likely an enumerator error?
Birthplace has been dittoed from the first entry (different family).
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)
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