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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #99 on: Sunday 29 June 14 05:12 BST (UK) »
OK folks, while doing a little more researching, I have to share a bit of a spooky story. Way back in 1995 my wife and I were in England for my sons wedding and we were staying in Eastbourne. As a part of the holiday we decided to visit Bath for a couple of days. We set off in our hire car and as the morning drew on we were on the lookout for somewhere to eat, deciding the next 'Little Chef' would be it, but none appeared. In the end hunger got the better of us and we decided to pull off the main drag at the next village and find a pub, which we duly did. On ordering the meal the barman inquired where we were from and when we said Australia, he said "you have come to see the boys down the churchyard then", not knowing what he meant we asked and he said that there was a small military cemetery there. On finishing our meal we spent some time with the boys in the cemetery before resuming our journey, many had died of flu in 1918 after surviving the trenches.  Only this morning I found that place was Sutton Verny!  and they must have been stationed with John Ingleby Lee there in 1918. The real spooky bit was when we rejoined the main road within a couple of miles was a 'Little Chef' rest stop! which at the time we thought was weird. Talk about life just being like a giant game of joining the dots ! :)

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« Reply #100 on: Sunday 29 June 14 11:02 BST (UK) »
Hmm, I think you must have had Lady Luck on your side not to find a Little Chef which must be the most appalling purveyor of roadside food in the UK.  ::)

There are some amazing co-incidences in this genealogy lark. When my niece lived in North London she would occasionally take a short cut home from the bus through Abney Cemetery, not knowing until some years later that she had been passing her 4G Grandfather's grave. 

I love that area of Wiltshire and have ancestors from Mere, Chicklade and Amesbury along the A303.  The village of Sutton Veny has a nice web-page, worth looking at, with some photos of this years' annual Anzac Day ceremony, and some interesting information of the camp/s there in WW1.  So nice to know these lads so far from home are remembered.

http://suttonveny.co.uk/

BTW I had a look at the Commonwealth War Graves website but no sign of a Lt GRAY

Judith



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« Reply #101 on: Sunday 29 June 14 11:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith, I was at Rookwood Cemetery a few years ago and walked straight to the grave of my g grandparents and my uncle who was in the same grave!
regards Roz
It is like LT Gray is a ghost!
I sent John a copy of the front page of Eileen's  book and he thinks the writing is the same as Nellies!

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« Reply #102 on: Monday 30 June 14 05:31 BST (UK) »
Hi !! I think Lt Gray was an acting Captain on 27th August 1918!! There is no record of his death  as he is mentioned in the Gazettes Feb and July 1919!!
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« Reply #103 on: Monday 30 June 14 06:48 BST (UK) »
Good find Roz - which Gazettes are they?

Judith
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« Reply #104 on: Monday 30 June 14 07:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith, One of them seems to be the one you looked at 7 November 1918 and the other ones are 15 Feb and 30 July 1919. I found it going a different way but I somehow think it may be the tank guy! This William Stanley Gray was a cadet. It said  he was an acting captain at Maricourt 27th August 1918 the Royal Fusilier's had only been in the area 2 weeks!!His captain was killed.  He received Honours and a Bar. I found this out in the cadets honours and distinctions page 89 University of London!
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« Reply #105 on: Monday 30 June 14 07:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith, I just spoke to a friend of my dad's and I was told dad always said she was a bigamist (Nellie).
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« Reply #106 on: Monday 30 June 14 08:59 BST (UK) »
He is quite elusive!

I found this mention but I think his names were William Stanley not the other way round.  However we don't really know if this is the same man.  :-\

included in a list of men who are to return to the rank of 2nd Lt (from A/g Lt) on completion of service December 1920
Tank Corps
S W GRAY

 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32163/supplement/12365

I'm trying to find the ref you gave, Roz

It seems possible/likely that Nellie was still married to William GRAY but maybe he had died, or left her,or just disappeared so it seemed easier to just give marital status as 'spinster'.  I was married in UK in 1969 and no-one asked for any ID at all, so I would think it would have been fairly easy for Nellie to say whatever suited her - especially as the LEE marriage was nowhere near her home.

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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #107 on: Monday 30 June 14 09:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith, Honours and distinctions Gray LT (actg Capt) William, Lond.R TF it said if the actg is in brackets it is less than 6months. The gazette was for the military cross Nov 1918.  he was awarded for gallantry as his captain was killed.
The bar was for Bois d'en Haut near Marincourt when the battalion arrived he volunteered to go out under heavy fire and retrieved the wounded. I think it was the Royal Fusiliers! That was 27 th August 1918!
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