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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 19 June 14 02:19 BST (UK) »
Right guys, just to make things awkward my great Grandfather  and one of his sons [GF brother] share the same name, I believe this was common at that time, I once worked for a family that three generations shared the same name and at one time were all running the business!  so both are right the marriage in Bristol was GGF and the other his brother. I saw a note somewhere when it is quoted that G-Grandmother had 8 children of which only six were alive at that time, I have accounted for 7 and presume one may have died on around birth

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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 19 June 14 03:01 BST (UK) »
Re the Groom on the 1894 marriage cert :) a Steward ...  I suspect the shipping lines were not adjusting dates for the respective ages of their crew members.

W J HARRILL, 2nd Cook, aged 28, Southampton, Crew on TYRIAN, Melbourne to Sydney July 1896
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1896/07/046tyr.htm
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1896/07/media/046tyr1.gif

W HARRILL 2nd Cook, aged 28, England, Crew on LEURA, Brisbane to Sydney December 1897
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1897/12/015leu.htm
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1897/12/media/015leu.gif

W J HARRILL, Butcher, aged 28, British, Crew on THERMOPYLAE from London to Sydney March 1899
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1899/03/063the.htm
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1899/03/media/063the1.gif 

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W J HARRILL, aged 50, born London, crew, 2nd Cook on the CALULU, from the U.K. via Melbourne to Sydney 10 Sept 1918.

(There's other voyages too, but he seems to have been working on passenger ships for most of his adult life...... )

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1894
Signed on at  Melbourne, on board S S FLINDERS, for voyage from Melbourne via pts (JM assumes coastal trading, he needed to be back in Melbourne for his Sept 1894 marriage  ;D ) document dated 21 May 1894….
W J  HARRILL, 2nd Cook     



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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 19 June 14 03:40 BST (UK) »
Thank JM, Grandad had an amazing life if one believes 'all' the stories :) and a lot of it spent at sea, he and my father were on the same ship and when they docked in London he brought him home and that is how he met my mother, she was 24 or so I expect GF was worried she might be left on the shelf  ;D  Grandfather died in 1953 when I was 7 and I can remember him well, he looked like Albert Einstein with a shock of white hair, a part of his DNA I did not inherit  :)

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« Reply #75 on: Thursday 19 June 14 07:34 BST (UK) »
I see quite a lot of earlier information about some of your family.  I'm happy to post it (in dribs and drabs as I fear I have to do something to the oven shortly) unless you want to have a go at unravelling it yourself. 

Hmm - you need to be warned - family history is addictive and the addiction is so strong that some of us get involved with looking for other families.   ::)

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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 19 June 14 23:32 BST (UK) »
I see quite a lot of earlier information about some of your family.  I'm happy to post it (in dribs and drabs as I fear I have to do something to the oven shortly) unless you want to have a go at unravelling it yourself. 

Hmm - you need to be warned - family history is addictive and the addiction is so strong that some of us get involved with looking for other families.   ::)

Judith
Hi Judith, I would be most grateful for anything that you find and in your own time is great, what I haven't got will be use full and what I do have  will hopefully be verified. Bristol seems to be where G grandfather hails from and amongst other businesses coal merchant seems to be a common thread at least in Hackney, that and ship provisions. hence follows :

"NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore
JL\ subsisting between Thomas Moxley Harrill and Henry
Bell, at 17, King-street, Tower Hill, in the city of London,
BB Ships' Butchers, under the style or firm of Harrill
and Bell, has been dissolved by mutual consent.—Dated this
14th day of April, 1881. Thomas M. Harrill.  [London Gazette]

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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #77 on: Sunday 22 June 14 00:08 BST (UK) »
Vectis
While the certificate's details are of great interest to us, I must advise that for reasons of copyright R'chat users are not permitted to post large sections or entire copies of these documents.  It is highly likely your post will be removed by a moderator.

However, having said that, I would have been interested in knowing the names of Katerine's parents. Although she says born in Hull UK, it is possible that she came with her parents to Australia and there may be a way to learn more about her.

Can you transcribe the last bit of the document which gives parental information?

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« Reply #78 on: Sunday 22 June 14 00:10 BST (UK) »
Vectis
While the certificate's details are of great interest to us, I must advise that for reasons of copyright R'chat users are not permitted to post large sections or entire copies of these documents.  It is highly likely your post will be removed by a moderator.

However, having said that, I would have been interested in knowing the names of Katerine's parents. Although she says born in Hull UK, it is possible that she came with her parents to Australia and there may be a way to learn more about her.

Can you transcribe the last bit of the document which gives parental information?

Sue

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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #79 on: Sunday 22 June 14 00:51 BST (UK) »
Hi there RAh32

Welcome to Rootschat.

You need to do a reply to a thread by typing your reply into the 'box' which comes up, rather than in the subject heading.  You don't need to repeat what is already here which is what has happened so far with your two posts.  It can take a while to get used to how Rootschat works.  :)

This is a long and complicated thread so you'll need to re-read it carefully to follow all of the relationships/marriages/defactoes/ half siblings etc!

It has been a very interesting journey to find Nellie and her origins.

Cheers, Judith
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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #80 on: Sunday 22 June 14 01:01 BST (UK) »
The parent detail for Katerine are, Walter and Sarah Simpson, mother maiden name listed as unknown, his profession is given a carpenter.  As Katerine [or is it Kathleen?] disappears perhaps she too returned to the UK, to be in Australia unaccompanied at 22 does seem very 'adventurous' for that time [unlike today]