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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 17 June 14 13:41 BST (UK) »
Nellie gives her father as "William HARRIS, deceased, fruit salesman" on the marriage in 1919.  The occupation 'stonemason' was typed in and then crossed out and replaced by 'fruit salesman' in handwriting.

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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 17 June 14 14:23 BST (UK) »
Well........if the marriage of William HARRIS and Henrietta nee MOORE actually occurred in 1893
at West Ham, then........was it the same fellow who married Katerine SIMPSON in 1894 in VIC ???

An interesting birth in 1894 and I'm wondering if Eleanor was meant to be Eileen?  I believe Nellie has also been a nickname for Eleanor.
Eleanor May HARRIS   
Mar Q 1894
W. Ham  4a /77

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« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 17 June 14 14:33 BST (UK) »
Yes, well done everyone, especially Judith.  Did you go through the electoral roll page by page?  :o

Quote from: Ruskie on Tuesday 17 June 14 13:08 BST (UK)
Vectis, IF your grandparents DID marry and that the 1893 marriage is theirs, it is strange that you were told they were not married. I would also be curious to know if Nellie was a half sister. I suppose if the parents were married your grandfather would be named as the father even if he was not. Maybe in this case the family rumours may have the advantage over official certificates (as people may have known the truth) .

Perhaps some DNA tests with Australian Lee descendants may give you some answers.

I was wondering if there was any chance that the real scandal was that HARRIS and HARRILL were two different men and the girls were half sisters  ???

Debra  :)

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« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 17 June 14 22:50 BST (UK) »
The Harrill Simpson Vic marriage (were there any children from this union?  ;))
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I could not see any in Victoria. I could see no further records in the name Katerine (or similar) HARRILL.
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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 00:16 BST (UK) »
..........My grandfather surname Harris [James William], my grandmothers 'first married' name was Harris [Henrietta Alice, nee Moore], which over time morphed into Harrill. Her daughter by Harris  [mums half sister] was born 1894........

James William/William James HARRILL was born HARRILL, married in VIC as HARRILL, and back in the UK census as HARRILL so the surname HARRIS posted as above confused the issue.  Nellie was born HARRIS so it was not uncommon for a 'stepdaughter' to use the surname of her mother's partner which is how HARRIS morphed into HARRILL.

Yes Debra, two different men ::)

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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 00:56 BST (UK) »
I am getting confused now ...   :P

(Vectis, where did you go? Your light was on a minute ago. I am interested in your response to all these wonderful finds, and also wondering if you have any further information to add? Any past memories or family rumours that might help?)

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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 00:58 BST (UK) »
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I am getting confused now ...  ;D

I have been confused for much longer .....  ;D
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Re: NSW Address but no name
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 01:03 BST (UK) »
Quote from: majm on Wednesday 18 June 14 00:58 BST (UK)
Quote from: Ruskie on Wednesday 18 June 14 00:56 BST (UK)
I am getting confused now ...  ;D

I have been confused for much longer .....  ;D

I'm glad it is not just me.  ;)
Have re read this a couple of times and am not following. :'(

Added: I think I have it now. :) It is all becoming clearer.  ;)

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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 01:15 BST (UK) »
Henrietta MOORE married William HARRIS in 1893 and had a child named Eileen MAY

Henrietta HARRIS lived with William James HARRILL who was previously married in Australia in 1894.

Eileen used the mother s" defacto" name a little interchangeably with her own birth name of HARRIS

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