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Re: Help Needed for Victoria Family Please
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 08 June 14 21:01 BST (UK) »
Great stuff - lots of thanks again

Merlin - what index is this for Viv's birth, is it Victoria -  or where is OGS - or does it stand for stand for something?
Cheers
Jan :-*


Perhaps Merlin will have more to offer on the meaning of OGS, but I can tell you that George and Esther were living at Alexandra Rd East St Kilda Melbourne in 1914. This was in the Electoral District of Orrong. I can only guess the OGS might be some sort odd abbreviation of Orrong
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Re: Help Needed for Victoria Family Please
« Reply #19 on: Monday 09 June 14 01:26 BST (UK) »
You have probably seen George Thomas BLORE's WW1 record online from the National Archives.  There are a few addresses given for Grace and you may be aalbe to work out where she was living at the time of Vivienne's birth which would probably have been within the first half of 1917 given that George embarked for England on 25 September 1916.

http://www.naa.gov.au/

Judith

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Re: Help Needed for Victoria Family Please
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 June 14 01:57 BST (UK) »
Hi again Jan ;D

Searching the birth index to 1920 twenty brings up 14 births registrations, seven of which were illegitimate with OGS and MELB OGS, as place of birth. Two previous birth registrations prior to the BLORE reg were for a birth at YINNAR and Yea and the following registration numbers for an unnamed child on the Brighton Train and once again two births at at OGS.  As you probably know you are unable to purchase birth certificates for births within the last 100 years in Vic.  The 1914-1920 Vic bdm CD was published before the legislation was passed.  Merlin will probably know what/where OGS represents. :)

Jan the digitised WW1 service file for George also confirms the family information including children's names along with many addresses for Edith;).

I wonder why Esther Grace and chn weren't mentioned in the family death notice for George T?

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Argus 25 Jan 1918

DIED ON SERVICE. 
BLORE.—Killed in action 4th May, 1917 (previously reported wounded and missing) Corp. George Thomas Blore, dearly beloved eldest son of George and Carrie Blore (Richmond), loved brother May (Mrs. Jeanes, Preston), Ethel (Mrs. Griffiths, Preston). Corrie (Mrs. Bradley, Chelsea). Will and Harry (Camberwell), Alf, (returned and re-enlisted A.I.F.), aged 37.

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Argus 15 Feb 1918
BEREAVEMENT CARDS.
BLORE. - Mr. and Mrs. BLORE, Sen., and Family desire to express their heartfelt THANKS to their many friends for expressions of sympathy by letters and cards in their sad loss of their son and brother, Corporal G. T. Blore, 21st Battalion, killed at Bullecourt, 3rd May. Will all kindly accept this grateful acknowledgment Waltham place, Richmond.

Cheers  ;D
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Re: Help Needed for Victoria Family Please
« Reply #21 on: Monday 09 June 14 04:22 BST (UK) »
I wonder if.....
OGS could be

Order of Good Shepherd

I do notice that a number of births with the OGS after them as place of birth were to women without a registered father to the child..
What do others think?

Sue
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« Reply #22 on: Monday 09 June 14 04:34 BST (UK) »
Electoral Roll-

In 1919
Address Queens Mansions, West St Kilda
BLORE Esther Grace. HD

Also 1919
Address 216 Barkly St. St Kilda,
BLORE Esther Grace. Draper

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Re: Help Needed for Victoria Family Please
« Reply #23 on: Monday 09 June 14 05:02 BST (UK) »
I wonder if.....
OGS could be

Order of Good Shepherd

I do notice that a number of births with the OGS after them as place of birth were to women without a registered father to the child..
What do others think?

Sue

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Searching the birth index to 1920 twenty brings up 14 births registrations, seven of which were illegitimate with OGS and MELB OGS, as place of birth.
Cando

Good thinking Sue :)

The electoral roll addresses are in the WW1 service file.

https://www.goodshepherd.com.au/history
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The Good Shepherd Archives is located in Abbotsford, Melbourne. The Archive cares for the records of the Good Shepherd Sisters in Australia and New Zealand dating from 1863 until the present day. The collection includes many records about the Sisters’ work with women and girls in need. Register books of admission and discharge have been retained for most residential convents in Australia and New Zealand. The Archive offers a research service to former residents, to their relatives, and to persons interested in the Good Shepherd mission in Australia, New Zealand and Tahiti....................

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Re: Help Needed for Victoria Family Please
« Reply #24 on: Monday 09 June 14 05:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan

there is a indexed marriage for an Esther Grace Blore in 1927 to a Lewis Henry Braham in Victoria

You'll probably have to get the marriage certificate as there is no other information on the index.

 

Marriage

BLORE, Esther Grace
BRAHAM, Lewis Henry
1927
#10941

In 1919and 1924 the Electoral Roll shows

Address Finch St East Malvern
BRAHAM, Lewis Henry Solicitor
BRAHAM, Mabel

Mabel died-

BRAHAM Mabel
Father LYONS Saml
Mother  Elizth Ann  ROLLS
Death Place  MALV E
Age  52
Year  1926
Reg Number: 10523

Were Mabel and Esther cousins or just a co-incidence of father's names?


After the death, Esther and Lewis BRAHAM are at 8 Finch Street, East Malvern.

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 09 June 14 05:35 BST (UK) »
I wonder why Esther Grace and chn weren't mentioned in the family death notice for George T?


George BLORE enlisted August 1st 1916

It may be interesting to know the month of the year 1917 for Vivienne's birth.

It must have been difficult for George to leave his wife expecting a baby and it had been a long gap between babies too, I see.

Sue

 
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« Reply #26 on: Monday 09 June 14 06:10 BST (UK) »
Sue, he embarked for England on 25 September 1916.  He may not have known she was pregnant.  I'm like you - would like to know the date of Vivienne's birth - she may not have even been born when he was killed.

His will is on PROV - Esther Grace BLORE is the executrix,; will is dated 24 September, 1916, address at that time: Queen's Mansions, St Kilda.  Probate was granted 15 February, 1918 at which time Grace's address was 42 Foote St, Albert Park.  The inventory shows he owned land in Monbulk.

Esther Grace BLORE was the sole beneficiary.

Judith
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