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Re: Skibbereen - Famine Survivors, How?
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 02 May 15 21:13 BST (UK) »
Tithes were due on tillage land. So the tenant farmer may have grown a plot of potatoes.
Tithes were not due on pastureland.
It was a very unfair form of taxation.No wonder there was a Tithe War
Shopkeepers and publicans did not have to pay tithes


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Re: Skibbereen - Famine Survivors, How?
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 16:44 BST (UK) »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ8ewcijWTg

Link from the Irish History podcast on You Tube, 10 minutes, by Fin Dwyer, an Irish historian about Irish workhouses.
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 He has numerous other Famine topics covered in his You Tube channel, which include Famine riots and piracy, Victoria the Famine Queen, 250,000 evicted, Why the Catholic church stayed silent, Soup kitchens, Where are the victims buried, Why didn't they eat fish.

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Re: Skibbereen - Famine Survivors, How?
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 18:29 BST (UK) »
Some roads were made,but not to anywhere in particular ,it was a means of giving aid but not for nothing!
Aid must be earned ,hard work in all weathers must be done to get aid .
It was very cruel ,the roads were not really used I believe.

A book by Asenath Nicholson - Annals of the famine in Ireland -records this American lady’s efforts to alleviate the starvation ,especially in the long Winter of 1847.She arrived in Ireland in 1844.
You can drive through Ireland today ,and see in fields small low mounds ,these are the remains if the small houses” cabins “ of the poor who were evicted in the foulest weather after being made to remove the roof of their simple dwelling.
Often they crept back and all the family would return after the land agents for the absentee English landlords has gone away , cuddle up and just die.
The houses fell in on them and it is within living memory that a visitor or tourist would ask what the mounds were —- “ Oh that  is the Kelly grave and  that the O’Shaughnessy grave”——-
I remember our History teacher really opened our eyes .
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Corn being exported during the famine  by Lord Trevellyan to France because the Corn Laws made it very lucrative to export it.

A very sad time .
Many Irish people arrived in Manchester ,sadly at the same time the cotton workers were on strike for subsistence wages,to the poor Irish the wages seemed good,but they had not known of the truck system.

Consequently they were much disliked as the undermined the cotton operatives’ efforts to get a living wage .
The concentration of Irish immigrants was such that four Catholic Churches were built in a
very small area.
Corpus Christie ,St.Patrick’s ,St.Chad’s and St.Malachy’s .

 A very interesting period in our history.
Viktoria.

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Re: Skibbereen - Famine Survivors, How?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 18 May 25 19:40 BST (UK) »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLGr0vm3BkY

You tube link 11 minutes

"Uncomfortable truths: the Darker side of Famine Survival in Ireland."










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Re: Skibbereen - Famine Survivors, How?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 19 May 25 07:25 BST (UK) »
My x3 gr grandmother was from Skibbereen.  Born c.1833 and was in the Workhouse prior to her leaving for Australia as part of The Earl Grey scheme in 1850 aged 16.

I have no DNA match's with anyone other than my relatives descended from her.  No brother's, sisters, or cousins.  Did everyone else die...

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: Skibbereen - Famine Survivors, How?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 19 May 25 11:29 BST (UK) »
My x3 gr grandmother was from Skibbereen.  Born c.1833 and was in the Workhouse prior to her leaving for Australia as part of The Earl Grey scheme in 1850 aged 16.

I have no DNA match's with anyone other than my relatives descended from her.  No brother's, sisters, or cousins.  Did everyone else die...

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Not necessarily, as she was part of the Earl Grey scheme then there is a good chance she didn’t have any close relatives and descendants of cousins or even siblings may match at such a small cM that they don’t show as matches assuming any have even tested and if they did, tested with the same company you did, or they may not be able to trace back as far as you have so even with a small cM will not share any common ancestor with you on their tree.