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Offline Isabel H

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Northumberland birthplace
« on: Wednesday 28 May 14 16:57 BST (UK) »
This is the 1861 census for Hauxley, Northumberland (Ann Smeatham age 21).

What is her birthplace on the 4th line, please?
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland

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Re: Northumberland birthplace
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 17:02 BST (UK) »
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Re: Northumberland birthplace
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 18:07 BST (UK) »
I agree with Gadget. It looks like Ford and since her husband is from Rennington that would not be an unlikely match.
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

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Re: Northumberland birthplace
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 19:40 BST (UK) »
Thank you Craclyn and Gadget. I can see it now.
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland


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Re: Northumberland birthplace
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 19:48 BST (UK) »
Your relatives and mine were probably gossiping together as they filled their water buckets at the standpipe Isabel. There is a Cracket family (not my direct line) further down the street from your Smeathams in 1861.
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

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Re: Northumberland birthplace
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 May 14 13:47 BST (UK) »
Robert was Baptised 27 Jan 1839, All Saints, Rennington to JOHN/ISABELLA
Abode Rennington, Fathers Occp Husbandman
(I am sure you have this)

1871 Census Ann SMEATON is born c 1840, Stainfield, Northumberland
(just posted as you may have this Census but the Trees I looked at dont)

Death Reg;
Ann SMETHAM, Sept 1878, Morpeth, 10b 225, age 38

I must say with all the people with Robert/Ann in their Trees I cannot believe no one has purchased a Childs Birth Cert to find her maiden name.

Trish :)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Northumberland birthplace
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 May 14 17:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Trish.

 It's mainly Robert I am interested in, as he went on to marry my 2xg aunt in Felton. Or at least I think he did! I'm confused now because the man I have been tracing has children called John & Isabella, which ties in nicely with the birth you found, but I had found what I thought was this Robert in 1851 in Hauxley. He's the right age, b. in Rennington, BUT his father is Thomas!

Back to the drawing board, methinks!

Isabel

I should add that Robert Smetham who married Sarah Shotton in Felton was b. 1839 in Rennington, and his obit.(1915) says he was well-known in the colliery villages of Amble and Broomhill.
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland

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Re: Northumberland birthplace
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 May 14 06:30 BST (UK) »
I think it is possible that the 1841/1851 Census for Robert are the same person.
Maybe his Fathers name is put down incorrectly in 1851 as Thomas?

1851 Census I had to go back a few pages to see the address as Bailiff Terraces;
There we have ;
Thos Smetham, 47, Coal Miner, born Eng Northd, Holy Island
Robert, 12, Son, Scholar, born  Eng Northd, Rennington

1841 we have at Bailiff Terraces;
John SMITHAM, Horsekeeper
Isabella, 30
Charlotte, 14
Robt, 2

FreeBMD has the Death Reg of a Isabella Smitham, Dec 1845, Alnwick, 25 150

A JOHN Smeatham born c 1802, Holy Island, turns up again in the 1871 Census, married to a Rachel, step/daug is there also.

1861 he is under John Smeaton born 1806 Holy Island, Widower
Rachael Blyth is living next door

Marriage Familysearch.Org;
John SMEATON age 55 (1806), Father JOHN to Rachael BLYTH age 47 (1814), Father GEORGE

Have a look and see what you think.

EDIT;
If you look at that 1861 Census for Robert/Ann, on the same page is a JOHN Smeatham born c 1826 Rennington and Family. He has Children John/Isabella, although his Wife is a Isabella also.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Northumberland birthplace COMPLETED
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 May 14 09:22 BST (UK) »
Wow, thanks Trish, that all fits!  :)   

"Thomas" does seem to be a mistake. On the image it is shown as "Thos.", so the enumerator may well have mis-read the original schedule.

 

GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland