inside a church

[cricket2]

Hello All

Please could you help with this  picture
inside a church
do not know if they are in England or abroad
are they c of e I do not know if anyone could
help me with any help in this matter
I would be very gratefull
john

[philipsearching]

The text shown reads; "THIS DO IN REMEMBRANCE" - it is part of the instruction Jesus gave his disciples at the Last Supper to share bread and wine in his memory.

In my opinion (bearing in mind that I am not an expert), this is likely to be in a Catholic church because Catholics place far more emphasis on Holy Communion than the Church of England, and far more than Nonconformist churches.

Hope this helps
Philip

[arthurk]

I'd say Church of England, because (a) the stonework looks ancient, and there are few if any RC church buildings of that age; (b) RC churches I've been in tend to have a fair few statues around the place, and here there are none; and (c) I think a RC church would have a crucifix rather than a plain cross.

Having said that, I think it's likely to be C of E of a middle-to-high church persuasion, rather than low church. In simple terms, high church C of E tends towards the RC church in its rituals and ornaments, with an emphasis on the centrality of the Holy Communion. There are hints of this in the number of candles, and in the position of the book rest - set out for the "eastward" position where the priest celebrates communion facing the table (altar) with his back to the congregation. Low church (or evangelical) C of E places more emphasis on preaching and the word (Bible); often there would be no candles at all, and the priest would traditionally celebrate at the north end of the table.

In the past 50 years or so the distinctions have blurred to some extent, and churches at either end of the spectrum can be found set up for a westward position, where the table is pulled out from the back wall so the priest can celebrate facing the people.

Arthur

[conahy calling]

http://www.parishoftyendinaga.org/history.htm     Same wording on this altar

[Viktoria]

The fact that the words are in English and the "empty cross" tell me it is Church of England.
Latin would be used in a Roman Catholic Church and the cross would be a full Crucifix, ie have the   figure of the dead Christ on it.
There are various sections of the CofE, Low to High Anglican.
However the taking of Communion is just as important  to Catholics and Protestants alike.
 The main difference being that the bread and wine serve as reminders of the Last Supper when Jesus was betrayed to Protestants but Roman Catholics believe it really becomes the body of Christ and so only take the bread as there is no need for the wine.Transubstantiation.
 That`s what we were taught in R.E. at school.
I apologise for use of capitals where it is perhaps not correct to use them, I`m never entirely sure so think a bit of "Fire Insurance" won`t go amiss!!!!!
 That is a lovely church( Church) Viktoria.

[mazi]

but it would have been a roman catholic church when it was built, unless it is after the reformation,
I think it is c of e now but I wonder if it is a lady chapel in a large church.

the church I reluctantly went to  ( I went to a church school)  was pretty "low"  but we still had candles on the altar.

mike

[cricket2]

Hello Philip/Arthur/Vickturia/Mike/Conahy

well thanks to you all for great information and help
have been doing some research myself and would
like to know if anyone would say that its taken about 1920/1930
in England or could it be abroad thinks that the rev could
be Henry basil hayward but not sure has he comes from
winstone? this is only a guess has I have a photo of him
Conahy thanks for your post have had a look and will have to look in detail but
I have some pictures of churches very much like your post
showed will post them later
john

[Billyblue]

Doesn't look RC to me either.
No tabernacle.
Though having said that, when I moved to where I now live, was surprised to find our fairly new RC church didn't have a traditional crucifix only a bare cross above the altar (we now have a traditional crucifix as well); and the tabernacle which we only a couple of years ago bought from another church down south (!!!) is away from the altar.

But this looks like an old church.
Dawn M

[shanreagh]

 The main difference being that the bread and wine serve as reminders of the Last Supper when Jesus was betrayed to Protestants 

Well perhaps not to Protestants! He was betrayed by Judas Iscariot to the priests of the Sanhedrin - then the priests betrayed him to the Romans.

And yes it does look like a Protestant church with English saying and empty cross. There are  Fleur de Lys on the altar frontal (trinity). While the standing cross cross is empty it does have the rounded ends often seen on crosses from the continent. The crosses on the altar frontal have a distinctly east European look about them if they are embroidered...Hungary, Slovakia or Roumania or some where in that region? or perhaps an English church in a foreign country.   

Having another look and cannot work out what the symbols are on frontal that look a bit like upside Fleur de Lys. There is the Christogram IHS

The type of cross on the frontal looks like this kind of cross in Heraldry
'Cross paty (the ends look like paws): cross patonce (EN), croix enhendee (FR)'