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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 22 May 14 15:16 BST (UK) »
That is looking good, avm, Im liking the reference to Mills.

I am going off the Mary Ifound in 1881, as here she is (probably) in 1891, and her husband is Benjamin....  but strangely, she is in KENT!

1891
Cliffe Creek, Watch Vessel, stationary abode
Benjamin T Thompson 38 commisioned boatman bn Cornwall
Mary 33 bn Plymouth
Mary A 10 bn Plymouth
Thomas 5 bn Devonport
Daniel 2 bn Norfolk

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 22 May 14 15:18 BST (UK) »

I am going off the Mary Ifound in 1881, as here she is (probably) in 1891, and her husband is Benjamin....  but strangely, she is in KENT!

1891
Cliffe Creek, Watch Vessel, stationary abode
Benjamin T Thompson 38 commisioned boatman bn Cornwall
Mary 33 bn Plymouth
Mary A 10 bn Plymouth
Thomas 5 bn Devonport
Daniel 2 bn Norfolk

This couple could be Benjamin Thomas Thompson/Mary Josephine Hennessy (marr Dec qtr 1877 Plymouth shows them on the same page).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 22 May 14 15:20 BST (UK) »
Here is Ethel in 1891

Manningtree Essex
H/H of Charles and Elizabeth Porter and their family
Ethel Thomson 9 visitor bn Plymouth
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 22 May 14 15:27 BST (UK) »
I did wonder if this was the Porters marriage (clutching at straws)   :-\

Marriages Mar 1865 
Flory    Robert       
Jones Susanna Elizabeth       
Porter  Charles       
Thomson    Sarah Elizabeth       
Tendring    4a   253   
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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 22 May 14 15:29 BST (UK) »
I did wonder if this was the Porters marriage (clutching at straws)   :-\

Marriages Mar 1865 
Flory    Robert       
Jones Susanna Elizabeth       
Porter  Charles       
Thomson    Sarah Elizabeth       
Tendring    4a   253

Looks promising, and Robert Flory appears to have married Susanna:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VFFT-FHM
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 22 May 14 15:38 BST (UK) »
Anyone got the 1891 reference for the Porter household?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 22 May 14 15:41 BST (UK) »
RG 12  1403  164  14

Charles Porter 53 chimney sweep
Elizabeth 43
Charles 27 fisherman
Ada 17
George 7
Ethel Thomson visitor 9 bn Plymouth

Everyone else bn Manningtree

From ages, looks like Elizabeth may be a second marriage.


Cant find them in 1881 so far
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 22 May 14 15:59 BST (UK) »
It looks as though Charles Porter may in fact have been born in Lawford, Essex in 1838 (parents Jasper, also a chimney sweep, & Susanna) & that the family had moved to Manningtree by 1851.

If so it may be that a Lawford birthplace, rather than Manningtree, appears in some records.

This Charles is still with parents in 1861 as an unmarried fisherman.

1871 at "Quay", Manningtree: he's a fisherman, 32 b Lawford.  Wife Elizabeth is 24 b Dedham.  Children are Elizabeth 6, Charles 5, Minnie 2, Lucy 1mo.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: marriage and birth
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 22 May 14 16:01 BST (UK) »
Sorry havent got back as had phone call

Thank you for all your help i wil ring lady tonight and see if she may have anymore info