William Rogers born Brentford, Middlesex 1851

[ciderdrinker]

1871 Thomas Rogers is the landord of the Fox and hounds High St Brentford.

[judi2632]

1851
Harriet is visiting the ROGERS family with son John

Richard Rogers   65 Head ....Broad Hinton, Wiltshire, England
Elizabeth Rogers   21 Daughter...Broad Hinton, Wiltshire, England
James Rogers   17 Son..... Broad Hinton, Wiltshire, England
Harriet Rogers   34 Visitor....Yatesbury, Wiltshire, England
John Rogers   2 Visitor .....Middlesex

Piece 1838
Folio 65
Page Number 13

[judi2632]

and Thomas in 1851 is in middlesex with the other children

Living in Bull Lane Brentford Middlesex

Thomas Rogers 35 Gasman.....all listed as born Broad Eaton, Wiltshire, England
Ann Rogers   15
Hannah Rogers 12
Elizabeth Rogers 10
Rebecca Rogers 8

Piece 1699
Folio 263
Page Number 30

[judi2632]

Their daughter Ann married

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ann Rogers
Ann Rogers Spouse Henry Manning
Marriage
Date 25 Dec 1860
Parish Ealing St Mary
Borough Ealing
Father Name:   Thomas Rogers
Spouse Father:   Henry Manning
   Parish Register

[judi2632]

Their daughter Elizabeth married

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Elizabeth Rogers  Spouse   James Edward Read
Marriage
Date:   11 Aug 1861
Ealing St Mary
Borough Ealing
Father Name   Thomas Rogers
Spouse Father    James Read
Register Type   Parish Register

[pjreill]

Thanks Dawn and Judi, I have ordered a copy of the birth certificate now from the GRO (first time I have done that so I hope I got it right).  Thankyou for the advice.  Once I receive it I will give an update with any new info I found to confirm.  Regards, Pete

[dawnsh]

Ordering without the reference from the GRO takes about 15 working days, with the reference 5 days, but if you are unsure you have the right reference, it's the most cost effective way of doing things as you get a refund if the information doesn't match.

Although civil registration started in 1837, the onus was on the registrar to go around his district and collect births until a change in the law put the onus on parents in 1875. A small number of births weren't registered so there may not be a birth to find. Hopefully though, this will be correct.

If it isn't. come back and let us know.

[pjreill]

Thanks Dawn,  I have been trying to track Thomas a bit more now too.  I think I found him on the 1881 census, still a publican in Brentford with Harriett and two grandsons Henry 15 and Thomas 12 were with them on census night.  Their surname was spelt with 'Rodgers' instead of 'Rogers' on this census. After that I can't seem to find any more so I am not sure if they both died sometime between 1881 and 1891.  I can't seem to find any death records for them.  Any help there would be appreciated.  Regards, Pete

[pjreill]

After some weeks waiting I have received the birth certificate of William Rogers.  Very exciting.  It shows he was born on 6th August 1851 at Old Brentford.  The son of Thomas Rogers and Harriet Rogers formerly Smith.  It has an X as the mark of Harriet Rogers Mother Old Brentford so Harriet must have been illiterate.  I imagine that was probably common in those days.