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Re: australian birth Certificate 1853
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 00:32 BST (UK) »
Looks like America to me. If it was the name of a town you would expect it to be followed by name of the country. One word for birthplace would suggest a town in the same state (Vic) or a country if overseas.   Name of the informant of this certificate would help.

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Re: australian birth Certificate 1853
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 00:34 BST (UK) »
I am (fairly) certain that the first letter of the offending word is A, but the second letter may be r - possibly m. Word may end with an a or an n.

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Re: australian birth Certificate 1853
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 00:40 BST (UK) »
If her father was in the military is it possible that she was born in America? Did her mother always travel with her father in the Duke of Brunswick's regiment? Did this regiment go to America?

Obituaries can give some good information however as they are (generally) written after the person's death it's a bit like information on the d/c - only as good as the knowledge of the person providing it.

Does Louisa's d/c give place of birth as Spain?

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Re: australian birth Certificate 1853
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 08:59 BST (UK) »
I too think it looks like America, but of the names on the Google list,  Amoeira in Galicia might be a possibility.
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland


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Re: australian birth Certificate 1853
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 09:10 BST (UK) »
Looks like America to me. If it was the name of a town you would expect it to be followed by name of the country. One word for birthplace would suggest a town in the same state (Vic) or a country if overseas.   Name of the informant of this certificate would help.

I agree.  Seems reasonable.

Amoeira would be a close fit though - with the dot on the 'i' sitting up there.

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Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
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Re: australian birth Certificate 1853
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 10:01 BST (UK) »
Even though it's stated the place should be in Spain, I can read Amiens in it
??? ??? ???

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Re: australian birth Certificate 1853
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 10:27 BST (UK) »
I know with my own (copy) birth certificate, the ink is thick and sticky - I think something to do with the way certificates were copied some years ago.

Hence my question about when you purchased this certificate.

I know on the Scottish boards there are regularly people asking for interpretations of what certificates say - I think the way that they reproduce certificates does not make the writing very clear. (they are always happy to resend though) Just wondering if it is the same with your Vic cert.



Hi All
I will try to contact them re the blurry words however another descendant has tried that previously without any luck. Maybe second time lucky.
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Re: australian birth Certificate 1853
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 11:08 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone
Thanks for your suggestions I will definitely follow up Amoeira in Galicia.
My relative who queried the name with Victoria BDM was told by them that they thought it might read America but we don't think that is likely. The duke of Brunswick regiment was mostly wiped out at end of Peninsula war ( by 1812/1813) but did rebuild for further fighting against Napoleon. It existed only to try and retrieve Brunswick state from Napoleon and the duke himself was killed in Belgium in 1815.  Louisa was herself illiterate and her husband was the informant on this birth certificate.  Her death certificate (1902) states birth in Spain and her son was the informant. Below is the newpaper death notice form