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Offline CaroleW

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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 15 May 14 23:51 BST (UK) »
World War 1 was from 1914 - 1918 so why does his death in 1956 rule service record entry out??  He was born 1875 so it is quite feasible he served in WW1

The free 1911 index has a Mary Grimm b 1898 but you need to view the actual image - not the transcription

I notice that your original post was just asking about possible siblings for your grandmother - which I have answered above (there were none).  To avoid any further confusion - is that all you were looking for or are you also wanting to trace the Betteridge FH

We seem to be getting in quite a mess with info/replies so once you clarify your needs I will post a summary to avoid further confusion
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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 15 May 14 23:53 BST (UK) »
I am looking for anything to do with the betteridge family from grangetown.

here is something with WW1 and betteridge

http://www.ww1-yorkshires.org.uk/html-files/grangetown.htm
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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 15 May 14 23:54 BST (UK) »
the man said he died in 1918 but arthur in my family tree didnt die until 1956 so that cant be him
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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 15 May 14 23:55 BST (UK) »
:) Hi it works for me as well, this is an interesting 1901 given marriage possible in 1902?

Annie E Wilson 25 Head Married b Lazenby
Arthur 6 b Grangetown
Emma 4 months b Grangetown
Richard Silman 57 Father occ Horse Driver/Groom b Blackburton? Oxfordshire
Minnie Silman 15 Sister b Grangetown
Residing at Laing Street, Grangetown
Census ref RG13/4584/133/9

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  :) OK you must have therefore the marriage certificate in 1902, does this seem to be the father of Annie Silman?

Sorry Carole, cutting to the quick as my grandma used to say!
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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #40 on: Friday 16 May 14 00:03 BST (UK) »
i dont have nothing bout silmans i dont have an cerfiticates
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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #41 on: Friday 16 May 14 00:06 BST (UK) »
Part summary - part comments

Your grandmother (still living) was the daughter of James RW Betteridge b 1908 who married Marie Martha Grimm b 1898 in 1938

James R W  Betteridge was the son of Arthur Wilson Betteridge b 1875 who married Annie Silman in 1902 as per freebmd.  You say her name was Wilson or Silman

The 1901 entry shows an Annie E WILSON with a sister Minnie Silman.  Annie has a 6yr old son called Arthur Wilson and there is a birth in 1895 on freebmd for an Arthur WILSON Betteridge.  However - he was too young to have married in 1902

Freebmd births are for England & Wales so there is absolutely no connection with that 1895 birth and the entry you quote above for somebody born in Belgium and only serves to confuse the issue

I suggest you post the full details from the 1911 entry for James R W (that is permitted as it is your family) and then work backwards from that info

I also suggest you buy a copy of James R W's 1908 birth cert to confirm his mothers maiden name - Silman or Wilson.  It may also be a good idea to buy a copy of the 1902 marriage cert to establish Annie's marital status at the time she married Arthur Betteridge
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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #42 on: Friday 16 May 14 00:07 BST (UK) »
ive just found this

Name:    Annie Elizabeth Silman
Event Type:    Birth Registration
Registration Quarter:    Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year:    1875
Registration District:    Guisborough
County:    Yorkshire
Event Place:    Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #43 on: Friday 16 May 14 00:08 BST (UK) »
Part summary - part comments

Your grandmother (still living) was the daughter of James RW Betteridge b 1908 who married Marie Martha Grimm b 1898 in 1938

James R W  Grimm was the son of Arthur Wilson Betteridge b 1875 who married Annie Silman in 1902 as per freebmd.  You say her name was Wilson or Silman

The 1901 entry shows an Annie E WILSON with a sister Minnie Silman.  Annie has a 6yr old son called Arthur Wilson and there is a birth in 1895 on freebmd for an Arthur WILSON Betteridge.  However - he was too young to have married in 1902

Freebmd births are for England & Wales so there is absolutely no connection with that 1895 birth and the entry you quote above for somebody born in Belgium and only serves to confuse the issue

I suggest you post the full details from the 1911 entry for James R W (that is permitted as it is your family) and then work backwards from that info

I also suggest you buy a copy of James R W's 1908 birth cert to confirm his mothers maiden name - Silman or Wilson.  It may also be a good idea to buy a copy of the 1902 marriage cert to establish Annie's marital status at the time she married Arthur Betteridge

u mean James R W betteridge
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Betteridge (Yorkshire)
Goodwin (Yorkshire)
Madden (Yorkshire)
Hall (Tyne and Wear)
Scoins (Yorkshire)

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Re: James R W Betteridge 1908
« Reply #44 on: Friday 16 May 14 00:09 BST (UK) »
I mean Betteridge and have amended it
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