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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 06 May 14 12:05 BST (UK) »
Edit:
Ann's age on her marriage certificate is given as 27, which would make her year of birth 1839, is there something amiss in the Scottish records from earlier in this thread?
If she was in fact born in 1828 she would have been 38 on her marriage to William Webster and 43 when her youngest child was born, something doesn't add up.

I see you've added to your previous post.

It's quite obvious that Ann *lowered* her age at marriage because her husband was younger.
I have seen it happen many times before for either the bride or groom ;)

I've got no doubt this happens from time to time but in this case it seems odd to say the least.
A 38 year old woman would have difficulty passing herself off as 11 years younger, and even with today's medical advances starting a family at 38 is fraught with danger.
But I know that single women were probably at a premium on the Bendigo goldfields at that time , so anything is possible I guess.
I've had a few surprises since I started this research, and Ann having a child at 43 would have maybe given her daughter encouragement that she could do the same, Isabella Webster's last child was born when she was 43.
Ann and William were married in October 1866 and Isabella and her twin sister were born in 1867 so maybe there was a sense of urgency to the wedding.

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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 06 May 14 12:31 BST (UK) »
Baptism:

William WEBSTER
Baptised: 14 May 1843
Abode: Galgate
Parish: Cockerham, Ellel Chapellry, Lancashire
Father: Thomas Webster
Occupation: Silk Dresser
Mother: Agnes Webster
Register: Page 91, Entry 722

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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 06 May 14 12:34 BST (UK) »
Baptism:

William WEBSTER
Baptised: 14 May 1843
Abode: Galgate
Parish: Cockerham, Ellel Chapellry, Lancashire
Father: Thomas Webster
Mother: Agnes Webster
#722

According to the marriage certificate he was born in 1841, do they normally wait 2 years to baptise them?
Another edit:
According to the death notice Ann Glasgow was 67 when she died in 1899, so that would put her birth as 1832, so we now have three birth years, 1828 according to the record in Scotland, 1832 according to her death notice, and 1839 according to the marriage certificate she signed in 1866.
I think I'll go with Scotland.   ;)

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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 06 May 14 12:52 BST (UK) »
Well, he probably *fudged* his age a little also  ;D

Births are available here:

http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

I can't see him on the 1841 Census.
He's 7yo on the 1851 census at home with his parents & siblings.
And 17yo on 1861 census at home with his parents & siblings.

Census available here:

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 06 May 14 13:17 BST (UK) »
1843 is close enough for me, and I now know he came from Lancashire.
I'd like to know when and where he died, maybe he did a runner?

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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 06 May 14 15:20 BST (UK) »
This is the only death & burial that might be him at Bendigo:

Death:

WEBSTER Wm age 71yrs d. 1913 BENDIGO #8191
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN

Burial:

WEBSTER WILLIAM
BENDIGO Cemetery
Burial: 26/08/1913
Interment Number: 22105
Section: MON F1
Grave Number: 22105

http://www.bencemtrust.com.au/search.asp?id=102683

Funeral:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article91016830
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article91017075

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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 06 May 14 15:25 BST (UK) »
Ann is buried in the same grave as her sister Mary & brother-in-law John MCLEAN.

I know that the old graves at Bendigo cemetery generally only have a depth to hold three adult burials.

http://www.bencemtrust.com.au/search.asp

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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 07 May 14 01:12 BST (UK) »
That 1913 death that Merlin has spotted may well be the elusive William's.  The lack of parents names on the index does not actually indicate any other lack of info, as afterall, IF this is your chap, then he would be shown as a widower, and hopefully one of his children would be the informant, or someone who knew the names of late wife and their children, as there are provisions on Vic death certs for that depth of detailed information.   That would be one way to help confirm or eliminate that William from your quest.

(PS,  I think Vic BDMs are among the best certificates available from a family history viewpoint)

Cheers,  JM
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Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 07 May 14 04:12 BST (UK) »
Well a death in 1913 at age 71 ties in with his birth in Lancashire in 1843, so there's a fair chance that it's him.
I'll get the certificate and see if there's any more information on it.