Noel E Thomas (previousy thought to be called Nigel)

[maryjolam]

These are the sailing /immigration records for the morgan family, who Noel (travelled from Canada to Pennsylvania ) met with between 1929 and 1933.
PLEASE NOTE: Only information relating to the American/Canadian connections is being sought. It is our understanding that Noel worked for the Canadian pacific Railway Company.
 We do already have on file the UK records for the family below. Many thanks to everyone.

Mauretania, sailing from Southampton to New York, arriving 22 September 1927.
Ivor Morgan, age 29, married, Fitter, born Tredegar, last permanent address N. Tredegar. Wife: Mrs. M. Morgan, Glao(?)dir Bedwellty Road, New Tredegar. Final destination: Freeland, PA. Going to Cousin, W.H. Kess or Kees, 1273 Birbeck St., Freeland, PA. 5'6" Fresh complexion, Blue eyes.

Sailing from Southampton to New York, arriving 18 October 1929 on board the Aquitania:
Mary Louise Morgan, age 25, h'wife, born Tirphil, she was 5'4", dark complexion, brown hair, hazel eyes. Her father was T.H. Lambert, Alstonvilla, Craig Y Bedr.New Tredegar
Enid Mary, age 7, scholar, born New Tredegar.
They were joining husband: Mr. Ivor Morgan, 125, Highland, Freeland, Lyzernectt, PA

And, info from America:
1930 Philadelphia Census
Ivor Morgan, age 32, married at age 23(?) (image is a bit blurred), born Wales as were parents, immigrated 1927, Repair(?) Mach, Mach Co.
Mary, age 26, married at age 17(?), born Wales as was father, mother born England, immigrated 1929
Enid, age 8, born Wales, immigrated 1925(?)
Fairhill Street, #2731?

Ship Aquitania
Cunard White Star Line
New York -Southampton
Arrived 24 Mar 1933
Ivor Morgan 35 Machinist
Mary Louise Morgan 29 Housewife
Enid Morgan 11 scholar
UK address Pentwyn House, Cumsyfiog, New tredegar
Country of last permanent residence USA

[Jacquie in Canada]

Mauretania, sailing from Southampton to New York, arriving 22 September 1927.
Ivor Morgan, age 29, married, Fitter, born Tredegar, last permanent address N. Tredegar. Wife: Mrs. M. Morgan, Glao(?)dir Bedwellty Road, New Tredegar. Final destination: Freeland, PA. Going to Cousin, W.H. Kess or Kees, 1273 Birbeck St., Freeland, PA. 5'6" Fresh complexion, Blue eyes.

Ivor wasn't on that ship. On the incoming New York passenger list there is a line through his name and a note on the bottom of the page that says he did not embark.

He was on the Berengaria which departed from Southampton and arrived in New York on 18 Nov 1927. He lists his father on the passenger list instead of his wife but the other information is the same. Ivor's given name was misspelled on the passenger but a printed correction was made however the transcription uses the incorrectly spelled typed name in the database. I have entered a correction.

How old was the person who gave you the information about Noel going to see the Morgans in the US? How old were they when Noel was supposed to have visited? Did they say whether Noel was alone or did he have his family with him? Is it possible they confused him with someone else or confused when/where he visited. I have tried searching every variation I can think of (including using his daughter's married name) and I don't see any evidence that Noel Thomas, his wife and/or daughter were ever in North America.

Jacquie

[maryjolam]

Thank you Jackie.
The person who gave the information is Mary Morgan, Ivor's wife. As she was present at the time, it is unlikely to be a false report.

I don't have any other information. Many thanks.

[maryjolam]

I would just like to say Thankyou to everyone who has helped with this research. It has been very helpful and appreciated.

[Jacquie in Canada]

The person who gave the information is Mary Morgan, Ivor's wife. As she was present at the time, it is unlikely to be a false report.

When did you get this information from her? The reason I ask is you don't seem to have gotten a given name from her since you had Nigel from a look-up and Noel from this thread. I'm not trying to be negative - I just want to make sure we have the right person.

Jacquie

[polarbear]

A possible passenger sighting .....

There is a Mr Noel Thomas on the Lancastria sailing from Liverpool to Halifax, Boston and New York on 09 Mar 1929. Unfortunately, there is no other info given as to age, destination, etc.

PB

[maryjolam]

Thank you! There are very few Noel Thomas' so I will follow this up and see if I can find a bit more.
Very grateful.

Extra note to clarify for Jacquie in Canada

I will just repeat again- to clear up any confusion
that the Nigel name was a mistake on the part of a kind looker-uper some years ago.
And that I have seen a photo of Noel taken at Chesterfield Station where he worked for a while and he is the same person as in my photo.
So this person I am seeking info about is NOEL ERNEST THOMAS. This is correct.

[DaveKe]

"It is reasonable to assume that Nigel/Noel was somehow related to Louisa Thomas,"

It is NOT reasonable to ASSUME anything.

Particularly as Thomas is a rather common family name.

Particularly in Wales.

[maryjolam]

Thank you for your reply.

I repeat my thanks to everyone who has participated, some information was gained, some was not but even this helped a lot because it has eliminated areas of possible interest.

I am grateful to everyone who has helped but am finding this particular thread difficult and I think any inference to false representation will be offensive to family who may later find these posts online - because they will come up on any google for many years to come.

I do thank everyone for helping, but I think this thread needs to end.
Thanking you all.