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1881/1891 Census lookup request - GILBERT in Islington
« on: Friday 24 June 05 21:49 BST (UK) »
All,

Please can somebody help me locate the 1881 and 1891 Census entries for one of my ancestors. I am trying to find 'Henry GILBERT', born in 1829 in Great Staughton in Huntingdonshire, but living (I believe/assume) in Islington, London in 1881.

From an Aunt I have details of one of her ancestors - Alice Margaret Mary GILBERT, born in December 1862 in Islington. The birth cert says that her (AMMG) father was Henry GILBERT, and his occupation was 'Foreman to Potato Salesman'. Through one resource or another I discovered that Henry GILBERT married Emily FRANKLIN in late 1852 in St Neots, Huntingdonshire.

I can find census entries for 1861 (RG9/136, Folio 22, Page 9) and for 1871 (RG10/270, Folio 102, Page 47), but I cannot find anything suitable for 1881 or 1891.

In 1861 the family comprised Henry Gilbert (aged 32) and wife Emily (28), plus children John Thomas (4), George (2), and Emily (3 mths).
In 1871 the family comprised Henry Gilbert (44) and wife Emily (38), plus children John Thomas, George, Emily, Alice (8), William (6), Sarah (2) and Henery (?) aged 9 mths.

It is possible that Henry GILBERT died sometime after 1871, but I can't find any record of his death.
On the other hand, I can find a 'Henry GILBERT' in the 1891 Census (RG12/154, Folio 42, Page 19) with almost the correct age, with a listed occupation as 'Potato Porter' and born in "Storton, Hunts" (note incorrect spelling, but phonetically the same as "Staughton"). In the 1891 Census his wife is given as 'Mary Gilbert' aged 56, born in St Germans, Cornwall. If that entry is correct, then where was he in 1881 and what happened to his wife Emily listed in 1861 and 1871?

Can anyone with access to CDs, or more experience in this area of research, help me. Many thanks.
TANNER: Middlesex & Surrey
DAVIES: Monmouthshire
DILBEY: Surrey and N London (Islington)
GILBERT: N London (Islington) & Huntingdonshire

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Re: 1881/1891 Census lookup request - GILBERT in Islington
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 June 05 21:57 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

I think you are right with the 1891 census as I have found a death for Emily Gilbert

Death of Emily Gilbert, March 1/4 1873 in Islington, aged 41.  Vouume 1b, page 150.

Henry must have re-married at some point after 1873 hence Mary Gilbert appearing on the 1891.

I'll have a look for a marriage and on the 1881 census for you.

Happy Hunting
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: 1881/1891 Census lookup request - GILBERT in Islington
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 June 05 22:19 BST (UK) »
Having said that I have just found this death record for a Henry Gilbert which ties in with his birth date......could this be him?

Death of Henry Gilbert aged 59.  March 1/4 1889 in Islington, Volume 1b page 169.

Or this death record is more likely if that is him on the 1891 census....

Death of Henry Gilbert aged 64, December 1/4 of 1893, Islington, Volume 1b page 236.


According to FreeBMD there are two possible marriages
Henry Gilbert and Mary Elizabeth Gosling - Sept 1/4 1879, Islington, voulme 1b page 426.
Henry Gilbert and Mary Ann J Buckland - Sept 1/4 1880, Islington, volume 1b page 313.
(there are other people on the page so these Henry's may not have married the Mary's but it is worth keeping them in mind.  Emailing the Islington record office will confirm the facts before any certificates are ordered)


I've looked on the 1881 for you but can't seem to find the family either.  I've tried all sorts of mis-spellings!!

I'll keep looking!!

Happy Hunting
Love
Legs
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: 1881/1891 Census lookup request - GILBERT in Islington
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 June 05 11:42 BST (UK) »
'Legs',

thanks for all your help in finding these entries, it has been extremely useful.

I have been unable to find the exact 're-marriage' for henry GILBERT, but I will keep looking also. I suspect that I will need to order some certificates from Islington Registrars office.

Regards,
Graham T.



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TANNER: Middlesex & Surrey
DAVIES: Monmouthshire
DILBEY: Surrey and N London (Islington)
GILBERT: N London (Islington) & Huntingdonshire