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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!! -try Godparents!
« Reply #54 on: Friday 15 July 05 07:06 BST (UK) »
"GODPARENT'S"...not grandparents??

Hello...can I buy into this as well?

My instincts tell me that someone has written grandparent when it should have read Godparent

Godparents had a very responsible roll in those days & not even all that far back...because it was more common for people to die young.

They became the parents if one or more of the original parents died. The trick would be to find the christening or baptismal records which would have their names on it, if indeed they were the Godparents...which being Irish looks difficult.

I can't help but remember a young girl from Scotland back in the 1950's, who was new to Australia. We really cracked up (laughed) when in a department store one day, she asked to buy a fruit bowl & was directed to the sports section, because they thought she was saying "foot ball"

Accents can be tricky!

Hope this is more help than hindrance
Maureen
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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!!
« Reply #55 on: Friday 15 July 05 19:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Maureen

Thanks for the idea I have to confess that I hadn't even thought about Godparents being in the equation. You could be right. I will have to see what I can find out about the RC churches in the area. It would seem logical if one or both of her parents died as the Victorians took their religious duties very seriously.

I have been wondering if it was normal practice when a child was born in hospital for the informant of the birth to be a member of staff. On the birth certificate one column says Signature, Qualification and  Residence of informant. Underneath is written C.Sloane Present at Birth, Rotunda Hospital.
I don't think this was a Doctor as there is no title and I don't understand why the father didn't register the birth. This is the only birth certificate I have where a child was born in a hospital so I have nothing to compare it to.

This is turning out to be the saga of the 20th century. I wonder if there are any Christening records available for that period?

Thanks once again for the idea its a good line to follow.

Margaret :)

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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!!
« Reply #56 on: Friday 15 July 05 20:44 BST (UK) »
This is the first time I've read this and won't jump into making any suggestions where to look as I got lost half way through the thread  :-[ ??? ??? ???  But I just wanted to say something that reminded me of an incident in my own family, you are talking about an Esther and a Bridget both with a surname which could be misinterpreted when written.

I had an aunt who was called Delia, in fact they even called their daughter Delia, of course I thought that was her name didn't I?  ....... Until I found the married on LancashireBMD when I told my mother that uncle must have been married twice as the wife's name was something totally different.  Oh no, she said, she just didn't like the name Bridget!!!

Now why do our ancestors just live their lives to confuse us! ;D ;D ;D

Annie, I hope your Irish naming sequence is right, I have my fingers crossed with my own grandmother's family.  On the 1871 census I discovered a first son who must have died young, otherwise it wouldn't have worked, but the only confirmation I can give is that the 3rd son was most definitely named after the father.

By the way, I love the name Aggiebagwash, takes me back to my childhood when the wash-house was just around the corner. :P

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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!!
« Reply #57 on: Friday 15 July 05 20:52 BST (UK) »



See what fresh eyes do? ::) ::) ::)

Godparents instead of grandparents!  That is a great thought!! Kathy just said -  How come we didn't think of that? and it's probably the easiest solution....
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You're so smart Maureen!!
and Mary -  hush! you're showing your age!!  :P

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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!!
« Reply #58 on: Friday 15 July 05 20:54 BST (UK) »
and Mary -  hush! you're showing your age!!  :P
Annie

 :-X I'm not sure whether you are lots older than me Annie, or only a touch, the very smallest touch of course, younger! :-X

Godparents sound the ideal solution to me.

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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!!
« Reply #59 on: Friday 15 July 05 21:03 BST (UK) »


All of my information is heresay.. ::)

What's a wash house?

Annie :P
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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!!
« Reply #60 on: Friday 15 July 05 21:16 BST (UK) »
Its where yer mam used ter send yer wid der washin wrapped up in yer shawl perched on yer ed, an if yer dropped it on der floor den yer never got no bread 'n drippin for yer tea.

Mary :P
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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!!
« Reply #61 on: Friday 15 July 05 21:23 BST (UK) »


kay la ... ! :P :P

ditja 'ave to kick der moggie down der jigger befor yer got der  :P
an wot's drippin' ?  ::)

Sorry Margaret -  I'll get off your post!!!

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Re: IRELAND: Family mystery!!
« Reply #62 on: Saturday 16 July 05 09:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie

That's what my son-in-law calls me. I am not old enough to remember wash-houses!!!!  ::)

Margaret