IRELAND: Family mystery!!

[aggiebagwash]

Kathy

Sadly I remember the original Dragnet series so I suppose that makes me a little piece of history too. 

I hadn't seen "katebray's" posting maybe I am not looking in the right places but I sure am learning fast.

I tried accessing the Liverpool/Lancashire website but couldn't download Java for some reason so I will have to wait until my husband has time to do it. He has lots of patience with computers.

I have got James Richard Thomas's birth and death certificates and have visited his grave about 10 years ago. Sadly that part of the cemetery was built over for a new superstore so I can't visit his grave anymore. However, on wards and up wards as they say. I have spent all morning searching for the Fannings deaths in the North West from 1901-1912 I searched every combination of spelling that I could think of but there was nothing. I think I will have to accept that they didn't come to England and have to rethink how to research in Dublin.

I will put another posting out as you suggest and hope that I can find some kind people to help me just as you have done.

Regards

Margaret

[Chattykathy]

katebray's post

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,7424.0.html


kathy

[aggiebagwash]

Hi Kathy

Just posted message to Katebray so hope that she has some sympathy with me and gives me a clue. Ha! Another television programme.  Think I have watched too much television over the years.

Why is Irish Family History so hard to research over the internet when other countries have made it so simple? Such a lot of the messages go unanswered sadly.

Margaret

[Kevwood]

Dont know if this site is any good margaret, kept seeming to end up on it when searching but its a pay site.

http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/index.cfm


Kev.

[aggiebagwash]

Thanks Kev

I have had a quick scan on that website and it looks promising. I will have to work out the cost in sterling first. :-

Margaret

[Kevwood]

Surely the fact that we can't an Esther or James Fanning at all add even more to the theory that he is the same person as James Fewings?

Kev.

[Kevwood]

I dont know where you have been looking Margaret but there are 5 deaths for James Fanning in Lancashire between 1901 and 1908!!

June 1901 Manchester age 57 (8d 172)
June 1902 Liverpool age 17(probably not)
March 1902 Flyde age 64(8e 489)
September 1903 Chorlton age 62 (8c 549)
March 1908 West Derby age 93 ( You would hope not)


Kev.

[aggiebagwash]

Hi Kev

Yes I found all the James Fannings you have pointed out but dismissed each one for a variety of reasons. Can't stop laughing at the last one. But you never know.  The age of most of them actually stopped me from persuing them any further.

As they were in their late 50's early 60's I couldn't see the sense in uprooting themselves with a baby, maybe I am totally wrong to dismiss them I don't know.

Remember James Fanning was a printer but James Fewings was a labourer and was for the rest of his life.  If as you say they are one and the same I will have a hard job proving it. How do you reconcile the fact that James and Bridget married in April and Kathleen was born in the November to James and Esther? The details are too specific for me to dismiss.

Although I don't have Kathleen's original birth certificate I do have the one she got in 1943. Her brother's always knew that she wasn't their sister it was never hidden from them.


I am going to try that website you suggested later this week maybe that will give me a clue.


Margaret

[Kevwood]

The ages are a bit old but i wouldn't rule anything out unless you have a date of birth for him.

On the birth cert of Kathleen, who is the informant, if it is Esther then i am wrong, if it is James then you never know!! They just put what they were told on the certs in those days.

Its only a theory about being the same man all im suggesting is James could be Kathleens father and she had a different mother , it fits with almost everything, why we cant find a James Fanning, why they brought Kathleen back with them and why we can't find an Esther in England. Weve all got thing like it we have found in our research.

Kev.