John and Robert Bailey

[ribbo39]

Hi Shillingstone,

A warm welcome to Rootschat.

As a starter, if your John Bailey is the one to follow, then he was bapt. 8-4-1804 in Manningford Abbots the s/o Thomas & Maria.

This parish is next to Pewsey and here is the possible marriage of his parents.
Pewsey;
24-10-1803 Thomas Bailey to Maria Andrews, by Banns. This entry is taken from the transcripts.

The Wilts OPC (On-Line Parish-Clerk) is a very useful site and can reached here;
http://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/genealogy/index.php/parish-directory
You may have to register first which is free, and there are a lot of transcripts available to view if you scroll to the bottom of the page(s).

I hope this helps.

Alan

[wentworth13]

Hello Shillingstone
Not sure what I can tell you. I was researching for my cousin who is a Bailey.  Direct line from William whose parents were Maria and Thomas.  I do know three brothers came out here and settled in South Australia.  When researching I decided I would look for all the children. On recollection I think I could not find one or two of the girls. But Mary Ann stayed and married in Wiltshire. Let me know what you want and I will look up whatever records I have.
John had quite a few children if I remember correctly.
I live in in South Australia so the time zone will be different.
Cheers

[Shillingstone]

Thank you ribbo39 and wentworth13. I had no record of Thomas Bailey & Maria Andrews (parents of John (born 1804) so an additional generation looks likely to have been added to my family line. I will follow the Wilts OPC. I am just beginning to see the vistas that open up when you delve into these things.

My next task is to establish the names of all Thomas & Maria's children. maybe one was Robert. I will then try to follow the lines that have descended from John's siblings. In case it is of use to someone below is a summary of the lineage from John. The line I descend from all stayed fairly local here in southern England. It is very interesting to discover that I may have relatives in Australia, especially as I have visited you a couple of times for five months in total (and, frankly, love the place!).

John m. Ann (Davis?) in the 1820's. They lived in Upavon (1851 census) and had six children: Emma (1828), John (1831), Louisa (1833), Thomas (1835), James (1838) & Hannah (DOB unknown to me).

James m. Alice Sainsbury in 1861 in the Amesbury area. They lived at the marvellous address of 'Pigsty Corner, Over Wallop' (sadly no longer in existence) before moving to Salisbury. They had six children: George (1864), Frank (1870), Kate (1873), Bessy (1878), William John (1879) & Morris (1881).

George m. Martha Alice Spratt in 1891 in the Alderbury area. I have a glass photograph of this redoubtable couple. They met whilst both working at the Laverstoke Asylum, Salisbury. They had the fashionable six children, of which three died in infancy. The surviving three were: Wilfred George (1894), Winefred Mable (1897) & Edward (1902). George was a railway porter and died 'of concussion' at an early age, so the three children were brought up in the Southern Railway Orphanage.

Wilfred & Edward had children of which two at least are still living in southern England and Yorkshire.

Thanks again for your help.

 
 

[wentworth13]

I have a lot of information about William the youngest of Thomas and Maria's children.  Also his brothers Thomas, and Stephen.  They all came out to South Australia. They are brothers to Robert and John.  One of the sisters Elizabeth married a Macklin from the same area and they settled in
New South Wales. Two of Robert's sons also came out.  George and Christopher.  Mary Ann another sister married a man called Hodge and they stayed in Wiltshire.My William was staying with them before he married Ellen Pope in WIltshire. I will type up all that I know for you.  It is only recently that I have culled a lot of papers but will look again  through the heaps of paper.  I will let you have whatever I know. I think you will find Robert and John on census.  1841. As they were born 1809 and William was in 1830.
Good Luck

[Shillingstone]

Thank you for your very interesting information, wentworth13.

[wentworth13]

I will start to type this. SO you will receive it in bits and pieces.

Thomas Bailey  born c1780-Manningford Abbots Wiltshire
sp. Marie Andrews (born c1782 Manningford Bohune Wilshire)  married 24/10/1803

John Bayley B 1804 Manningford Bohune  spouse Emma West
Robert Baily b1806  Manningford Bohune  spouse Maria Holloway   married 25/10/1828
Rosanna Bailey b1809
Ann Bailey B1811
Elizabeth Bayley born 6/10/1815 Wilsford Wiltshire Died 17 Oct 1869 Beechworth Victoria Australia
spouse Isac Macklin b1809 Manningford Bruce WIltshire  married 21/ Mar 1834 Died 18th Jun Tallangatta Valley Victoria Australia

[wentworth13]

1.   Mary Ann Bayley 1  was born in 1818 in Wilsford Wiltshire England. She was christened on 23 Aug 1818 in Manningford Abbotts Wiltshire. She died in Apr 1899 in District of Pewsey  Wiltshire England.

Mary Ann was 80 years old when she died.


Mary married Thomas Hobbs  in 1842 in Hilcott Wiltshire England. Thomas was born in 1819 in Hilcott Wiltshire England. He died in Jul 1901 in District of Pewsey  Wiltshire England.



Sources

     1.   Wiltshire records.

[wentworth13]

1.   Stephen Bayley 1  was born in 1821 in Manningford Bohune Wiltshire. He was christened on 6 May 1821 in Manningford Abbots Wiltshire. He died on 23 May 1896 in Adelaide South Australia   . He was buried in West Terrace Cemetery.

Stephen married Eliza Somerset Cook  on 1 May 1845 in Holy Cross Wilcot Wiltshire. Eliza was born in 1824. She died on 8 Jun 1859 in Morphett Vale South Australia.



Sources

     1.   Wiltshire records.

[wentworth13]

1.   Thomas Bayley 1  was born in 1826. He was christened on 22 Oct 1826 in Manningford Abbots Wiltshire.

Thomas was living with John Hobbs and wife on the 1851 census.  This may have been his sister's
in laws as she married Thomas Hobbs and interesting William was with them at the time of the census.
He came out on the ship BLUNDELL 11/10/1856 to Adelaide


Thomas married Ann Bennier  on 19 Jan 1860 in St Mary's Sturt South australia. Ann was born on 9 Oct 1839 in Germany. She died on 25 Jun 1920 in Magill South Australia.



Sources

     1.   Wiltshire records.

   1.   William Bailey 1  was born in 1830 in Manningford Wiltshire England. He was christened on 11 Jul 1830 in North Newnton Wiltshire England. He died on 24 Jul 1897 in Royal Adelaide Hospital.  The cause of death was Lacerated leg, Pulmonary Congestion, Exhaustion  Royal Adelaide Hospital. He was buried in 1897 in West Terrace Cemetery.

Grave is situated TSE V1E Plot 32.  There is nothing to see.  Just blank ground. No headstone


William married Ellen Pope 2  daughter of John Pope and Elizabeth Giddings on 10 Apr 1852 in Parish Church of North Newnton Wiltshire. Ellen was born on 2 Jun 1833 in Hilcot WIltshire. She died on 22 Oct 1900 in Adelaide. She was buried in West Terrace Cemetery.



Sources

     1.   Pewsey Wiltshire Church Records.Pewsey marriage transcrips. Though not 100% sure this is the likely marriage of them.North Newnton Baptisms Wiltshire.
     2.   Pewsey Wiltshire Church Records.