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Place of birth for Richard O'Brien b.1822 in Ireland - can't read it!
« on: Saturday 26 April 14 05:45 BST (UK) »
Hello
I have been researching my family via ancestry, particularly my grandmother Nora O'Brien's family. She was born in Newcastle Upon Tyne but her grandfather Richard (who spells his name O'Bryan in the census) was born in Ireland. I know from his marriage certificate to Anne Robinson in 1851 in Gateshead that he was a groom/coachman and that his father's name was John (here spelled O'Bryen!) and he was a gardener (I suspect in service). Richard gives his age as 29 in 1851, giving his year of birth 1822. In most census records Richard has just put his place of birth as "Ireland". I cannot find him on an 1841 census (still in Ireland?) but in 1851 he is in Gateshead (Newcastle UK) and this is the only census where he gives a PLACE in Ireland but it is very hard to read. Ancestry transcribes it as "Rotherte, Ireland" (and his name is given as Richard Bryan).
I am hoping somebody here can help me to read it/might recognise it!
Thanks
Christina

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Re: Place of birth for Richard O'Brien b.1822 in Ireland - can't read it!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 April 14 06:02 BST (UK) »
First impression - it looked like it ended in --thcote 
Strathcote sounded feasible - but google appears to be a place in Canada....
Looking more like an R at the the beginning, so  google Rathcote......no hits

But as soon as the letters Rathco.....got googled, up pops Rathcoole and the more I look at it, the more it is.....I think the t's crossbar on Rath, has extended to cross over the l in coole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathcoole,_Dublin

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Re: Place of birth for Richard O'Brien b.1822 in Ireland - can't read it!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 April 14 06:18 BST (UK) »
Does this help...
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Re: Place of birth for Richard O'Brien b.1822 in Ireland - can't read it!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 April 14 08:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you both! Rathcoole sounds like a great suggestion - there are 2 of those and also a Rathtoole according to a place name search.
Christina

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Re: Place of birth for Richard O'Brien b.1822 in Ireland - can't read it!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 February 21 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi , I found your post by accident looking at my ancestor who may be one in same . My Richard Obrien , coachman , was according to family ledgend from County Clare and he worked for a well to do doctor or banker ( possibly Money lender ) and when the employer returned to UK to retire he took two staff on condition they married . Does any of this link into your searches ?
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