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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 April 14 23:09 BST (UK) »
Yes I had heard that Joseph Watson Sr. had taken off to Canada with the nurse/maid.  There's a lot of information on that other thread about Joseph Sr. and I'm trying to get through it all.  Unfortunately, when I get to Joseph Watson Jr (or Ralph Beverly Watson as we know him), things start to get a little sketchy.  Thanks again for all your help.

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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 26 April 14 23:57 BST (UK) »
Hello again,

It is interesting that Ralph Beverley Watson disappears in 1919 from Canada and then the same name appears in London in 1920 - the dissolving of the partnership with Mr Peake.

I wonder where Joseph was in 1901? I can't see him anywhere.
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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 April 14 03:12 BST (UK) »
Hi back.

Could you tell me where I could find that information about the dissolution of the business between Watson and Peake?  As to where he is in 1901, there's a Joseph M Watson in the 1901 England Census working as a servant in the household of one Arthur Dales in Melbourne.  He is born in 1883 in Cherry Burton, Yorkshire.  I'm wondering if this isn't Joseph (R) Watson Jr.  Another entry for Joseph Watson (Sr) lists daughter Dorothy and son Cyril but Joseph Jr is missing from this entry. Someone else doing family trees over here made this connection.  Thanks.

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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 27 April 14 03:20 BST (UK) »
Sorry, one last silly question.  How common would the name Ralph Beverley be? 

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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 April 14 06:48 BST (UK) »
Hi back.

Could you tell me where I could find that information about the dissolution of the business between Watson and Peake?  As to where he is in 1901, there's a Joseph M Watson in the 1901 England Census working as a servant in the household of one Arthur Dales in Melbourne.  He is born in 1883 in Cherry Burton, Yorkshire.  I'm wondering if this isn't Joseph (R) Watson Jr.  Another entry for Joseph Watson (Sr) lists daughter Dorothy and son Cyril but Joseph Jr is missing from this entry. Someone else doing family trees over here made this connection.  Thanks.

The London Gazette, that Heywood provided the link for, shows the legal notice. Not sure there would be anything else?

As I said in reply #5, and Heywood said in reply #4, the Joseph M Watson is not your chap!
I found Joseph M with family in other censuses.
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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 April 14 08:45 BST (UK) »
Yes, as KGarrad says, the Joseph M Watson is, I'm sure a different man. I explained earlier who he is.
I linked to two London  Gazette notices. I am not sure but I think the second one may be a bankruptcy notice. Perhaps KGarrad knows?

I entered the name Ralph Beverley Watson into the search on a research site I use and the London Electoral lists is the only showing. If you are able to do so, it might be worth looking at the Peake connection.
There is a town called Beverley just a short distance from Kirk Ella, I wondered if that was why he chose that as his name, although at that time it was a recognised male name rather than female.
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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 27 April 14 08:59 BST (UK) »
I linked to two London  Gazette notices. I am not sure but I think the second one may be a bankruptcy notice. Perhaps KGarrad knows?

Thanks, Heywood!! ;D ;D

The sub-heading on the previous page is "Notices of Release of Trustees".
I'm not all that familiar with bankruptcy procedures, but I think it's when someone appointed as a receiver has sold enough assets to pay off the debts; then he applies to the court to be released from his duties?
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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 27 April 14 09:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks  ;)

Scotiagirl,

As you can see in the other thread, reference is made to Lavinia's will and you may have seen it. The address is Beverley rather than the nursing home but of course the will may have been drawn up at any time in her married life.
I have only ever sent away once for an ancestor's will but it was informative because it was annotated with addresses etc for the beneficiaries.

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Re: Joseph Ralph Watson
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 27 April 14 10:14 BST (UK) »
On previous thread, there is the story of the nursing home etc but it also seems that Lavinia may have only been there temporarily (my thoughts) as a result of the birth of son Harold.
1911 looks to have Harold and Dorothy and Enid living in Beverley. Perhaps They were living with Lavinia when she died.
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