George Goodman Missing

[jorose]

WWI records for men who signed up for the CEF are online at the Canadian archives:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx

Don't see him, though (there are several other George Goodman entries).
Where did you see the "Officers and men in the First Canadian Contingent 1914" reference?
What was his exact birthdate?  He may have jiggled age up or down (to get into or get out of military service, because he married a woman who was significantly older or younger than him, etc), but birthdays are often kept even when "year of birth" wanders.

Perhaps the family assumed he'd gone to Canada when he disappeared (he'd talked about it/been planning it/had connections there) but for whatever reason he didn't or headed elsewhere.

[bgoodman]

Hi, thank you for replying. I am aware at present therefore have limited Internet access. I will look at your link in more detail when I am back home again. I found that information on Find my Past. I only had access to the UK sites. The info mentioned was just a heading. George was born 1881, Rickmansworth UK. You are probably right about George not actually going to Canada but I feel that I have to give it a shot. Thank you again.

[bgoodman]

Hi Jorose, I looked at the link that you were good enough to post. Even with the 'wandering' different birth years in mind, those George Goodman folk do not look likely at all. You were quite right about that. I know for certain that George's birth certificate had George Joseph entered for his Christian names. He may not have used Joseph much day to day. However, as the names listed from the link included second names, it helped to discount those folk. I have no idea whether there were other family members in Canada. He did have an uncle in New Zealand and one in Tasmania. There was another uncle, William Goodman baptised 1804, but I have been unable to locate him at all. I even wondered if William went to Canada but I haven't found anything to suggest that he did. I guess George Goodman remains missing for now.

[bgoodman]

Hi everyone, it has been some time since I last posted on this forum. Something of interest has been brought to my attention on a Canadian Census. I will just recap first on George Goodman

I am still searching for George Goodman b.1881, Rickmansworth UK. He supposedly boarded a boat for Canada 1890s. I did wonder if he joined the military.
His father died in 1888 Rickmansworth UK and he was put into a Boy's Home. His mother returned to Ireland, with her youngest child, my grandfather, Hubert Goodman.
An Aunt, Mrs Seabrook, and George were mentioned in a probate in the 1900s. A search was done for him, at that time, but with no success. His mother's maiden name, McCarthy, was referred to in one newspaper article also. It appeared that both names were used in an attempt to locate him. George Goodman and George McCarthy.
Recently, a friend found a George McCarthy on the 1911 census in Saskatchewan. He was down as a cousin to Frederick Gristwood. The Goodman family, descendant from Thomas Goodman b.1766, Wiltshire UK, lived in Rickmansworth and married people, at least twice, with the surname Gristwood. I am, therefore, under the impression that this is George Goodman, alias McCarthy, despite the difference in birth month and year. George Goodman was born on 4th July 1881. Hopefully the link, as follows, will work.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=40125

Fred and Kate Girstwood are still in Saskatchewan 1916 census but George was not found.

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1916/pages/about-census.aspx

Neither was he found on the passenger list. Another friend managed to find Fred and Kate, on the passenger list, going under the name of George & Mrs Gristwood in 1907.
I wonder again if, at some point, whether George joined the military, but as alias George McCarthy. I would be grateful for any help in locating George, before or after the 1911 census. Any further information on that particular Gristwood family would also be welcome. Thank you.

[[Ray]]

The/A Gristwood family are close to the Goodmans in Ricky.
The Gristwood family are still local to the area.

What have we missed?

Ray

[Jacquie in Canada]

I am, therefore, under the impression that this is George Goodman, alias McCarthy, despite the difference in birth month and year. George Goodman was born on 4th July 1881. Hopefully the link, as follows, will work.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=40125

It's more than just the birth information that is different. It also says that George immigrated to Canada in 1907.

Jacquie

[bgoodman]

Hi Ray & all. Maddie, from Rootschat, Hertfordshire, (England), forum, has kindly looked up Gristwood details. I guess, some of those Rickmansworth Gristwood folk did emigrate too. James Goodman & Louise Gristwood married in Rickmansworth. Maddie is referring to that line. Although all those Goodman men are descendant from Thomas Goodman b. 1766, who moved to Rickmansworth, married and fathered several children. Maddie's comments as below.

"Been going through the Gristwood’s again today & looked a little further into them just out of curiosity, Frederick George’s line goes back to William Gristwood who married Susannah King in 1799 whereas Louisa Gristwood’s (James Goodman’s wife) goes back to George Gristwood who married Elizabeth Lacey in 1796, William & George were brothers & sons of William Gristwood who married Elizabeth Aldridge in 1766. Can’t see any other sort of connection between a Gristwood to a McCarthy, well at least not until 1967 when there is a marriage in Swindon"

[bgoodman]

Thank you Jacquie for your reply. Our paths must have just crossed. Yes, I did wonder if George was keeping a low profile somewhere before he reached Canada, hee, hee. He may not have left England until later than the 1890s, using the alias name McCarthy. The family didn't seem to know for sure the exact date of departure. My grandfather mentioned, on his army form, 1901, that George was in London. However, there does not appear to have been much earlier contact with the brothers. My grand father was taken from UK to Ireland aged 5 years approx, when his father died in UK. His brother and a sister were put into homes in UK. I know that my grand father Hubert, later in life, searched for his brother George, but to no avail. His sister died, in the girl's home in UK. The family assumed that George had joined up and had died in the war. Sad times.

[bgoodman]

Bummer, it looks like George McCarthy, as previously mentioned, isn't my George Goodman, (alias McCarthy), after all.
Maddie has worked hard on my behalf, only to prove that George in the census isn't my missing George. Her information as follows.
"Another nail in the coffin, the 1891 census for the Prockter family has mother in law Eliza McCarthy living with them so it is looking as if the George in Canada was in fact Kate’s cousin through her maternal side. "
Many thanks for your interest. George will just have to stay missing for now.