Jones in Bovagh House/ castle, mid 19th century

[Jerseyties]

does anyone know if this will possibly still exists and if so how can we get a copy?

PRONI D668/146/2. 28 July 1832 Copy of will of Thomas Hogg. Beneficiaries wife Molly; sons Thomas, Alexander, John; daughters Jane, Mary. Executors; Cornelieus Foy [Toy] and Alexander Foy [Toy].
Note: Molly is a nickname for Mary.

If so it might explain a lot...Thomas marries Martha Brown, Alexander marries Margaret Brown, and Irish Lynn, does a John Hogg marry a Heaney? Really think this will could be important to our research.
We already know that Thomas Jr's parents were Thomas and Mary from his death cert posted earlier  in this thread. Alexander's death cert (Hoag) should be available from NY State and may name his parents as well. We know he died in 1911.

[aghadowey]

does anyone know if this will possibly still exists and if so how can we get a copy?

PRONI D668/146/2. 28 July 1832 Copy of will of Thomas Hogg. Beneficiaries wife Molly; sons Thomas, Alexander, John; daughters Jane, Mary. Executors; Cornelieus Foy [Toy] and Alexander Foy [Toy].
Note: Molly is a nickname for Mary.

There must be something in that PRONI file but not sure how much more detail will be shown.

[aghadowey]

"Families of Western New York 1912" (page 216) has a lot of information on the Hoag family. Born in "Kenarry" should be Caheny of course.

Eliza, daughter of Samuel Brown of Moneydig, married George Orr the schoolmaster at Moneydig School where he taught between 1827 and 1849 when he moved to Ballinree School, Aghadowey. They lived at Meathpark (Ballybrittain townland) before emigrating in later life to Mt. Vernon, Missouri. Eliza's sister Letitia Brown was principal of Movanagher Girls School between 1862 and 1880.

[Irish Lynn]

Hi,

Jersey Ties, you have done it again!  Joan Hoag married Anne Heaney Hogg.  They are buried next to Thomas Boyd Junior and Marggaret Ann Boyd and her parents.  I have a copy of the cemetary plot purchases from 1851.  The 4 people were John Hogg, Thomas Boyd, Andrew Ramsay and John Heaney (my other Great Greatt plus grand father whose grand daughter was Sarag Hogg Heaney).

I have noted in my tree that Anne Heaney Hogg and John Hogg had sons Thomas, Samuel, Alexander a daughter Isabella and Robert. 

I also have in the Cemettary records that there was a grandson of John Hoag and Anne Heaney Hoag named Thomas Toye Hoag. 

I am starting to think Jersey Ties that our Thams Hogg married to Martha Brown Hogg was the brother of John Hogg who married Anne Heaney Hogg.  That means this will that you all discuss above may have been for Our Great Great
 plus grand father Thomas and Mary (Molly). 

I am out the next 2 days, but I will look at the cemetry plot ownership records and send all details of who is buried there.  MANY Hoags, Boyds, McGraths. 

This is amazing....

I will be in touch soon when I can pull out the plot ownership documents from Greenwood cemetary. 

TBContinued...

[aghadowey]

I'm still really interested in the Andrew Ramsey who had an interest in that grave plot as he might tie into my connection 

Have lots more files on Hogg families which I can look though at some point.

[Irish Lynn]

Aghadowey,

I do have a note from the cemetary that at some point Andrew Ramsay sold his portion to the other 3 owners.  he is not actually buried in Greenwood.  I will look to see what it lists for him and when he sold his portion. 

Signing off for the next 2 days...

[Jerseyties]

There is an Andrew Ramsey buried in Green-Wood.

Birth:    unknown
Death:    Oct., 1895

Burial:
Green-Wood Cemetery
Brooklyn
Kings County (Brooklyn)
New York, USA
Plot: Lot 18170, Section 152
 

[aghadowey]

Thanks for the Ramsey lead- gives me quite a bit more to follow up.

A bit of history for Bovagh Castle since that's what LindeL started this thread about-

   In 1871 the Bovagh estate, then in the possession of the 5th Marquis of Waterford (a title first given to George de La Poer Beresford in 1789), was sold in the Encumbered Estates Court mainly by public sale although quite a few lots were disposed of by Private Contract. These townlands had been part of the large native freehold granted to Manus McCowy Ballagh O’Cahan in 1611. The O’Cahan’s had their ‘castle’ at Bovagh but like most of the freeholders lost their properties due to confiscation following native uprisings. The O.S. Memoirs say O’Cahan sold the property to Tristram Beresford for a horse, a fine suit of clothes and a trifling sum of money. It was certainly in the possession of Beresford when he made his Will dated 23 October 1647 leaving it to his grandson Randall. The O’Cahan lands acquired by Beresford eventually became the Waterford estate.
   As absentee landlords go they were better than most and the rents were at a reasonable level. In the 1840’s they were accused of operating a clearance system which was actually intended to be the consolidation of farms. It involved compensating tenants in holdings too small to support them. They were paid their tenant right enabling them to emigrate to America and larger holdings were created as a result. At the time when many tenants earned their living by spinning and weaving they could manage on a few acres but when they had to fall back on agriculture their holdings were too small.
   Prior to Robert Brown, Bovagh has had many interesting tenants. The Rev. Henry Barnard, Prebendary of Aghadowey 1763-1787, whose first wife was Mary Canning, daughter of Stratford Canning of Garvagh. They had a daughter Letitia who married Rev. Henry Hervey Aston Bruce 10 November 1786. Could there be a connection in any way to Mrs Brown?  Bovagh may only have been a local address for Theobold Jones M.P.for county Londonderry and second cousin of the 3rd Marquis of Waterford. Bovagh Castle the residence of Langford Heyland was used as a military post at the time of the 1798 rebellion and the parade ground was in the castle grounds. Not long after the rebellion the troop became a dismounted or infantry corps. Edward McNaghten succeeded Langford Heyland at Bovagh Castle and took over as Captain of the 40 men of the Yeoman Infantry there. He had received his commission on 1st November 1803 which would have been signed by the Lord Lieutenant, or other chief Governor of Ireland at the time. After that came John Smith and Robert Brown as caretakers during which time it became greatly dilapidated.
   It would be interesting to know if any of the Brown family was “paid to emigrate” as the townlands of Moneydig, Mayoghill, Caheny and Bovagh are all on the estate.

[Irish Lynn]

There is a lot to write on all the people buried in Greenwood Cemetary, Lot 5014, Section 97.

The Lot book entry shows that on 4th of July, 1851, Lot 5014 in Section 97 was purchased by Thomas Boyd, John Heney (is Heaney), John Hogg and Andrew Ramsay.

Andrew Ramsay conveyed his interests in the Lot to John and Thomas T. Hogg on June 29, 1882.   This John Hogg was the son of John Hogg and Ann Heaney Hogg because John Hogg senior had died in 1875 .  Thomas T is Thomas Toye Hogg, born to John and Ann Heaney Hogg in 1858, died 1946 and is buried in this plot.   John Hogg and Ann Heaney Hogg had at least 5 children that are buried here.

John Hogg Jr. - 1850-1940
Mary Ann - 1853-1854
Robert - 1856 - 1900 or after
Thomas Toye Hogg - 1858-1946
Samuel - 1860-1863
Alexander - 1862 - 1863

At the time Andrew Ramsay sold his portion of the land to John Hogg Jr. And Thomas T. Hogg he was living on 29 Clinton Street in Hoboken, New Jersey.

Another note is that Thomas Hogg and Martha Brown Hogg are buried in Lot 8100, Grave 576 with no stone.  It is not near the Lot 5014 area either.

Sarah Hoag Heaney (daughter of Thomas and Martha Brown Hogg) married Thomas Boyd Heaney (son of John Heaney and Margaret Boyd Heaney).  Sarah and her husband, the only living heir to John Heaney are buried in Lot 7639, grave 287 with Sarah's sister Matilda Hoag (another daughter of Martha and Thomas Hogg) .  Matilda never married.  There is a nice headstone with HEANEY and the 3 names underneath.  My grandmother, Ether Boyd Heaney had that put in.  She is buried in Fernwood Cemetary with her husband and son George and Herbert Miller.

There are 34 people buried in the original plot purchased by T Boyd, A Ramsay, J Heaney and J Hogg.  6 are last names of Boyd, 1 is last name of Aldridge, 4 are Heaneys, 18 are Hoag/Hogg and 4 are McGrath.  All the McGraths were buried between 1856 and 1860.  I do not know their connection to the 4 purchasers of the plot. 

I will send more information soon.  Greenwood Cemetary is a beautiful place.  I have enjoyed going there and there is a Genealogical Department that is very helpful.