Carlton H DeVille

[majm]

I think the only real benefit from obtaining the 'real deal' cert rather than an official transcription is that the real deal cert would have the autographs of the bride, the groom, the clergy, and the witnesses.   

To me, if this were my family history I was following up, then it is simply a no brainer to spend around the $Au20 and get the official transcription.   To me it is a question of whether I want the autographs or just the information     

Cheers,  JM

[Ruskie]

As Carlton is a bit of a mystery man, his real signature may be useful if he had previously married or been known by another name at some stage and other documentation is uncovered which contains his signature.

Just speculation of course and buying the original may later prove to be unnecessary.

It is William's decision of course.

[majm]

All my families were well established in NSW long before Federation, so I am not sure of what travel documents would have been usual for travel to Australia in the early 20th Century.   I do know though that there's been several threads at RChat about Passports, particularly UK ones.  In general terms, Passports were not needed until say WW1 for persons seeking to travel outside the UK.   
Here's a link that RChatter Stanmapstone posted  (on thread : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=677387.0 )
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/passport.htm?WT.Ip=rg-22875

Perhaps a search for Carlton H DeVille's passport application may help, as it seems he has not been found in RAF records, nor in UK Census records?

Cheers,  JM

[Neil Todd]

I did a rough search and used France as a possible word on 1901 census and came up with quite a few DeVille's either born France or were Brits Living there on the census.

So I was thinking he may possibly have been British to French parents or just French and not on any census.

Neil

[wrjones]

Apparently the Blanche Deville's parents were a Gilbert Charles Deville and a Gertrude Parker who married at Wigton Cumberland in 1905.A later Census entry gives this Gilbert Charles Deville as born in Islington London in c 1881.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Thanks once again for all your replies.

Without wishing to complicate matters still further,I'm wondering whether the death I found in 1963 in Southport wasn't for Gertrude Deville(Parker)?She is given as Gertrude Parker born in c 1882 in Scarborough Yorkshire in the 1901 UK Census.

Now whilst my Gertrude Tomkins was born in Southport Lancashire in 1883,the death entry of the Gertrude Deville in Southport in 1963 gives a birth of c 1884.Which does leave a certain margin of error?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[rosball]

Probate notice 1968 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article107051529

Probates, Supreme Court, Canberra, an Election to Administer the estate of
GERTRUDE DE VILLE  of 36 Bougainville Street, Manuka, pensioner, deceased.
etc
regards,
   Ros

[wrjones]

Thanks Ros,I'm beginning to think that the death of the Gertrude Deville in Southport Lancashire in 1963 was indeed that of Gertrude Deville(Parker).

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[ShaunJ]

LAN-OPC has this marriage in 1918 - a possible sibling? :

"23 Dec 1918 St Peter, Burnley, Lancs.
George Henry De Ville - 21, Soldier, Bachelor, 58 Lindsay Street, Burnley
Gertrude Meehan - 20, Weaver, Spinster, 58 Lindsay Street, Burnley
    Groom's Father: Horatio De Ville, Deceased, Painter
    Bride's Father: John Meehan, Soldier
    Witness: Thomas Turner; Janey De Ville"
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Burnley/stpeter/marriages_1907-1920.html

   

[ShaunJ]

In the RAF Muster Roll from 1918 there is this one:

219157 Deville L C,  Labourer, AC1

EDIT this is Leonard Cartwright Deville who resided in London and died in Edmonton in 1962.