Carlton H DeVille

[Neil Todd]

I think you should apply for his DC

http://www.ors.act.gov.au/resources/attachments/Historic_Death_Index3.pdf

20,000547 is Ref # 21st november 1940. Unfortunatly online it does not show either parent although some do and as I have had NOTHING to do with ACT BDM's I am unsure what they contain.

Neil

This is the one for applications.

http://www.ors.act.gov.au/community/births_deaths_and_marriages/historic_death_index

[rwindsor2905]

The ACT historical death index can be found at
http://www.ors.act.gov.au/community/births_deaths_and_marriages/historic_death_index


The index gives a registration number of 20000547, a death date of 21 November 1940, and no parental details have been supplied.


Just beaten to the information ... by Neil

[jorose]

Doesn't give you more info about his family but some idea of what sort of work he did:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2306493?searchTerm=%22De%20Ville%22
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2515466?searchTerm=%22De%20Ville%22

"Charlton", an alternate spelling:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/989639?searchTerm=%22H%20DE%20Ville%22

[wrjones]

The continental experience could be of interest.Though there a lot of Deville people in the UK Census entries,I have been looking at one who came to the UK from France.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

It could be of interest that Gertude's probate record mentions a Blanche Gartside.There is a marriage of a Blanche Deville to a John b Gartside at Southport in 1936.There is a birth of a Blanche Deville at Newcastle Northumberland in 1912,mother's maiden name of Parker.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

Apparently the Blanche Deville's parents were a Gilbert Charles Deville and a Gertrude Parker who married at Wigton Cumberland in 1905.A later Census entry gives this Gilbert Charles Deville as born in Islington London in c 1881.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Ruskie]

Would you not buy his NSW marriage certificate? Unless he fibbed, you should at least get his age and parent's names .....  (unsure about place of birth or other info on NSW certs but others will know)

[majm]

Would you not buy his NSW marriage certificate? Unless he fibbed, you should at least get his age and parent's names .....  (unsure about place of birth or other info on NSW certs but others will know)

I agree Ruskie, and of course, it would be info given by Charlton himself, so first hand info 

NSW BDM website http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh/bdm_rec.html

"Bridegroom's full name, occupation, place of residence, conjugal status, place and date of birth, age, father's name and mother's maiden name
Bride's full name, occupation, place of residence, conjugal status, place and date of birth, age, father's name and mother's maiden name
Celebrant's name and witnesses"

May I also note that NSW BDM marriage certs for 20th Century also include former names, either for Bride or Groom, when those details have been given to the celebrant.  When the marriage ceremony was conducted by a Reverend, you also get the denomination.   If either party was not yet of age (ie until the 1970s, not yet 21 years) you also are given the name and relationship of the adult who gives consent on behalf of that under age person.       

May I suggest a transcription from one of the several official transcription agents will be cheaper and quicker than the real deal cert.   

NSW BDM  webpage re official transcription agents:  (you may need to scroll down to the final paragraphs of that page)
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html#transcription

RChat's NSW Resources Board includes info about NSW BDM
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369703.msg4949134#msg4949134

Cheers,  JM

[Ruskie]

Then the marriage certificate is definitely worth buying.

I have been digging around in the UK census and bmds, using variations of names and ages and can't come up with anything that looks likely. Tried searches such as first name only, middle name as first name, surname with wildcards, no surname, surname only and no forenames, no dob, dob as 1885 +/- 5 and 10 years (one of mine knocked 10 years off his age when he arrived in Australia, so you need to be flexible  )

Am even considering complete change of name ... so the marriage certificate may give even a tiny clue.