Carlton H DeVille

[wrjones]

Can anyone give me the birth and birthplace of a Carlton H DeVille who married my relative Gertrude Tomkins at Ashfield New South Wales please?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[rutht22000]

Hi

It looks like he arrives in Sydney on 3 November 1925 from London on board the Jervis Bay (marrying Gertrude in 1927).

He gives his address on the manifest as 23 Vernon Road, Chester (Cheshire) giving a birth year of about 1885 (aged 40)

if he was English the only one around that time I can see was a Herbert Deville born in London (registered in Wandsworth in 1885), son of Louis De Ville and Fanny Jane Wymark.  Not sure where the Carleton bit might come in if that is him.

Do you have the marriage certificate to check the father's name as they might give some more clues?

Hmmm not sure on the link to London born Herbert De Ville as there is a corresponding death in the UK in 1974.  Did Carleton die in Australia?

[giblet]

NSW marriage index
5871/1927    DEVILLE    CARLTON H    TOMKINS    GERTRUDE    ASHFIELD

NSW death index
31954/1965    DEVILLE    GERTRUDE   father UNKNOWN   mother UNKNOWN district  GOULBURN

The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995)
Friday 21 November 1941
IN MENORIAM.
DE VILLE.—In loving memory of my late husband, Carlton H. De-Ville, who passed on November 21, 1940. Recalled. From pain and suffering free. Peace, perfect peace.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2587451?searchTerm=%22Carlton%20H%20DeVille%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=Carlton+H+DeVille

It doesnt say where he died and i cant find a death index in NSW for him.

[rutht22000]

Judging by that death record, we can cancel out Herbert De Ville, b 1885 in London.

Can't find any Carleton De Ville's in any of the obvious places though

[giblet]

Ok found a second name for him so that should make looking for a birth etc easier.. maybe 

The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995)
Friday 6 December 1940

LEGAL NOTICE
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL TERRITORY PROBATE JURISDICTION. IN THE ESTATE of CARLTON HORATIO DEVILLE Deceased of Griffith in the Australian,, Capitol Terrioiy, Painter, Intestate APPLICATION will be made after fourteen days from the date hereof that Letters or Administration of the Estate of the abovenamed Deceased may be granted [to Gertrude DeVille the Widow of the abovenamed Deceased and all notices may be served on Mis, G, DeVille,
Bougainville Street, Griffith, A.C.T,

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2545144?searchTerm=%22gertrude%20DeVille%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=gertrude+DeVille

[giblet]

Found his obituary, dont know why i cant find him in the NSW death indexes tho 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2543992

Burial Woden cemetery

DE VILLE, Carlton Horatio 21st November 1940 55 years. RS.

http://hiddencanberra.webs.com/-%20New%20Folder/1936-1967%20Alpahbetical%20List.pdf

[Neil Todd]

There is a listing of a C H DeVille in the roles for WW1 Britain. In it he is listed from Leeds.

Neil

[rutht22000]

Found his obituary, dont know why i cant find him in the NSW death indexes tho 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2543992

Burial Woden cemetery

DE VILLE, Carlton Horatio 21st November 1940 55 years. RS.

http://hiddencanberra.webs.com/-%20New%20Folder/1936-1967%20Alpahbetical%20List.pdf

that confirms a birth of around 1885 so there are 'some' English connections

[Neil Todd]

"dont know why i cant find him in the NSW death indexes tho"
Because he died in ACT.

Neil