Carlton H DeVille

[wrjones]

Thanks,it seems that George H and this Gertrude also went to Australia as they show on Electoral Rolls.I'm not finding the George H too readily in the earlier UK Census.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[ShaunJ]

Horatio Henry Deville marries Kate White in Doncaster in 1896.

1901 Kate is with her parents in Whiston, with two children Jennie Deville (age unclear) born Worksop and George Deville age 3 born Atherton.

[jorose]

This is interesting:
Horatio Henry Deville m. 1896 Doncaster
born as plain Horatio De ville in 1875 Doncaster

Supposedly "left his family and was never heard of again" sometime in his twenties:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/deville/messages/104.html
Which might explain him being "deceased" when George was married (if George was this Horatio's son).

Kate White, by 1911 appears to be living with a "Martin McDonald" (from what I can squeeze out of the free index) with George Henry and some younger kids to this second relationship. Kate didn't marry Martin until 1913 (he is McDonnell on freebmd).

Jennie/Janey is Jinny Deville on freebmd - at least at birth, I can't see a marriage so far.

[wrjones]

Thanks both,yes I did see the marriage and Kate et al in 1901 later.Could Horatio be our man?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[jorose]

He seems like a front runner at the moment - he has the right occupation, the name is close, there doesn't seem to be a death for him in England/Wales at least, and a change of name/age isn't unusual especially if he was avoiding his first wife!

A bit mysterious where he was in 1901/1911 in that case - Europe?

It does appear the details from marriage are going to be necessary to untangle what happened, though.

[ShaunJ]

Gertude's probate record mentions a Blanche Gartside

I think we need to understand where Blanche fits in. What is the context of the probate mention?

[wrjones]

Apparently the Blanche Deville's parents were a Gilbert Charles Deville and a Gertrude Parker who married at Wigton Cumberland in 1905.A later Census entry gives this Gilbert Charles Deville as born in Islington London in c 1881.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Yes I think Blanche was Gertrude(Parker)'s daughter.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Thanks once again for all your replies.

Without wishing to complicate matters still further,I'm wondering whether the death I found in 1963 in Southport wasn't for Gertrude Deville(Parker)?She is given as Gertrude Parker born in c 1882 in Scarborough Yorkshire in the 1901 UK Census.

Now whilst my Gertrude Tomkins was born in Southport Lancashire in 1883,the death entry of the Gertrude Deville in Southport in 1963 gives a birth of c 1884.Which does leave a certain margin of error?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[ShaunJ]

You mean that Blanche Gartside was mentioned in the probate of Gertrude Parker/Deville?

I had assumed that you meant the probate of Gertrude Tomkins/Deville.

[wrjones]

Well yes,I don't think now that the death in 1963 is my Gertrude.

Regards
William Russell Jones.