HICKS, LAITY, KESSELL surnames

[framoss]

Hi Roy
Many thanks for your information. Really Appreciated.
Cheers Framoss

[framoss]

Still Looking for any info on Martin HICKS bap 26 June 1808 St. Just, son of John Hicks and Jane Oats.  He is presumed to have married Jane (nee Hicks) and had a daughter Louisa Jane b. 1852C Madron. Louisa Jane married Henry Nicholls Hollow and came to NZ.
Framoss

[Chris Penrose]

My Step-Aunt and Godmother is a  Granddaughter of  Maria Morthey Laity (b. 1886 Mar qtr) who married Edward White in 1910.

I have only gone back so far to the 1841 census where I find George Laity, mason of Helston, who was married 3.09.1829 to Margaret Cheffer/Cheffers/Chefer (depending on which internet screen you look at).
They had the following childern: 1) Thomas 2) George 3) James 4) Edwin 5) Caroline 6) Eliza 7) John Alfred 9) Isaac 10) Ellen 11) Elizabeth Sarah 12) William H : This information is gleaned from the three main internet sources.

George Laity would be my step-great great great grandfather, and my godmother is keen to know about her relatives as she has so little information and is in no way confident with family history resources, computers etc.

I was down in Cornwall recently for a few days doing some concentrated FH research on my surname, and could have done with staying a year, but  'home'  beckoned me back.

Does this George Laity fit in anywhere with your family tree?

Regards
Chris Penrose
Leeds, West Yorkshire

[framoss]

Hi Chris.
My Laity connection is very vague at this stage.
My interest is William Henry Kissell(Kessle) b. abt. 1838
on his marriage to Elizabeth Treloar at Helston his father was named as Henry Laity, Blacksmith.  We have no clue as to his mothers given name, and presume he may have been a base child of unknown Kissell and Henry Laity.  I have not been able to find him as William Kissell or William Laity on 1841 or 1851 Census.  He first appears on 1861 Census after his marriage as William Kissell.
Frances

[EmPea]

Hello Roy

I downloaded your gedcom with absolute glee as I think I have, at long last, had a breakthough in my brick wall.

As background, my ggfather was James Hicks who came to Cape Town, South Africa in about 1901.  According to family, there was a major rift and he never had contact with his family in Cornwall ever again.

He was married to Mary Caroline BREACH (d.o. James Joseph & Margaret VINGOE) but I have not been able to verify the marriage.  Mary Caroline is on the 1901 Census under her maiden name as an Asylum Nurse in Wiltshire.  I cannot find James on the 1901 Census (but I was not looking for a James married to an Edith!).  However, I have him in the employ of the Plague Administration Department in Cape Town by the 9th of May 1901.

James & Mary had two sons, Wilfrid James Breach HICKS b. 30th October 1903 in Cape Town and d. 21st December 1972 in Durban (my grandfather) and Godfrey Trevor Breach HICKS d. 6th May 1983 in Johannesburg.

I have a copy of James's death notice from the Archives in South Africa where he died in Johannesburg on the 6th August 1949 age 76y 10m.  This makes his birth in October 1872.   Based on this, I got a copy of James's birth record from the Records Office and his birth date is 20th October 1872 in Penzance.  His parents are listed as James Henry (occ. Grocers Cellarman) & Grace Frances PEARCE of 37 Mount Street Penzance.  (You have his birth date as 29th November 1872 but that is the "date registered".)  So I think we have the same man.

What is different about our information is his marriage on 7th October 1893 to Edith Pengelly!  May I ask your source of this? 

I am now wondering if James deserted his wife and ran off with Mary to South Africa - hence the rift?  Or maybe Edith died?  Do you know perhaps?

I was also wondering if you perhaps had more information on his siblings - I have been told very scant information but not been able to verify any of it, viz. that one of his brothers was in the navy and a sister and a cousin moved to New Zealand.

I don't have access to the 1901 Census information and wonder if there is SKS out there who will look for a James born in 1872 in Penzance, Cornwall with a wife named Edith.

Regards
Moira

Hi Lalm,
I have attached a gedcom for the Hicks family.
Any additions or ammendments you may have would be very welcome.
I also tried to attach the 7 wills (these are in word doc. form, but it would not accept them.
However, these can be found along with about 200 I have transcribed at the following site,
West Penwith Resources
Lots there including census etc.
I look forward to hearing from you, Roy

[lrc2530]

Only had a quick look at the 1901 census, can't see a James Hicks but there is an Edith Hicks born 1875 Penzance.  Listed as a wife, but no husband present.  Two daughters Winifred born 1895 and Eva born 1897.  RG13, piece 2254, Folio 5, page 1.
Lynda

[EmPea]

Thanks so much for looking Lynda. 

Please may I ask if you would mind looking up that reference again and letting me know her place of birth?  I have ordered the marriage certificate for James & Edith and would like to be able to compare the data.

Regards
Moira

[lrc2530]

Hello,
I am afraid it just says Penzance as her place of birth.  She was living at 6 St.James Street, St. Johns Parish, Penzance.  There is a marriage between James Hicks and Edith Pengelly on FreeBMD for the December 1893 register, but can't immediately see an Edith Pengelly on the 1891 census (but only had a cursory glance) but there is one on the 1881 census also stating date of birth 1875 and place of birth Penzance.
Lynda

[EmPea]

Thanks Lynda