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john j askin-mary j davies
« on: Saturday 05 April 14 09:19 BST (UK) »
hi, is there anyone out there in rotherham with any ties to either john j askin or my gt grandmother mary jane davies.
mary j went to rotherham in 1916-she was oringinally married to john davies and they lived in the swinton-pendlebury area of manchester, whether mary j was still married or divorced from john i dont know asi can find no death for him, mary j married john j askin around 1927.
mary j had a son john joseph who i think went to rotherham with his mother -john married in rotherham approx 1929 and was living at pottery st--his father was dead[as marriage cert] by this time.
so looking for any info at all for john davies-ie -did he die in rotherham-when- did he even go to rotherham--any help would be very much appreciated
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alan davies

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Re: john j askin-mary j davies
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 April 14 09:39 BST (UK) »
What is Mary's status on the 2nd marriage certificate?

It should say "Widow" or maybe "Marriage dissolved"?
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Re: john j askin-mary j davies
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 April 14 10:02 BST (UK) »
hi,
    i have not got mary j wedding cert as i have been told so many times- as the cost of divorce was so very dear in those days, the real truth was often withheld--but if you think by getting the cert it would help me i will certainly get it. ::)

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Re: john j askin-mary j davies
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 April 14 10:25 BST (UK) »
There were changes to the Divorce Laws in the 1920s, and it made it easier to get a divorce.
• A private members' bill in 1923 made it easier for women to petition for divorce for adultery, but it still had to be proved.

My own grandfather was divorced in 1926, and then married my grandmother in 1927!

Have you tried looking up the Divorce Index?
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm
(Can't see anything obvious though)


The marriage certificate would make it clear - Mary's marital status would state "widow" if her first husband had died.
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Re: john j askin-mary j davies
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 April 14 11:01 BST (UK) »
The 2nd marriage certificate will still only tell you what they want you to think I have a "2nd" marriage certificate where it says she is a Widow she married a 2nd time in 1900 and died in 1912 her 1st husband didn't die till 1926 sometimes we have to go with our gut feeling and whats been passed down.
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Re: john j askin-mary j davies
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 April 14 18:04 BST (UK) »
hi,
   i have been searching for my gt grandfathers death for many years-with no luck-- i only know he was either in pendlebury or rotherham and he died sometime between 1914 and 1929-- not a lot to go on--perhaps the 1921 census may tell me something-when it comes out.
 putting this post on i was perhaps clutching at straws and hoping there were any askins still alive with a interest in their past family-but i have checked on public member trees on ancestry--and nothing

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Re: john j askin-mary j davies
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 April 14 08:38 BST (UK) »
would checking the electoral rolls for rotherham 1916-29 be of any use to me?
alan ??