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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #36 on: Monday 07 April 14 09:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Marg

I don't think the birth date at death is correct as it doesn't fit with the ages of the children we found in 1911.
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #37 on: Monday 07 April 14 09:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Marg

I don't think the birth date at death is correct as it doesn't fit with the ages of the children we found in 1911.
I have amended my post before you posted this
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #38 on: Monday 07 April 14 09:59 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the fact that whoever registered the death didn't know her correct date of birth makes me think they may not have known where she was born either, so the death certificate may not help. However, unless that combination of names is common in Italy, I think that must be her grandparents you found on FamilySearch.
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #39 on: Monday 07 April 14 12:36 BST (UK) »
Could my great nan be the eldest child?and someone mixed up the dates or maybe they visited their family in Italy and had her there slightly unlikely since they had another young child but possible, it seems this ancestor is trying to be as difficult as possible(compared to my others). I have checked and cannot find a birth certificate for my great nan.

Thanks for the extra info MargP.


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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #40 on: Monday 07 April 14 12:52 BST (UK) »
Could my great nan be the eldest child?and someone mixed up the dates or maybe they visited their family in Italy and had her there slightly unlikely since they had another young child but possible, it seems this ancestor is trying to be as difficult as possible(compared to my others). I have checked and cannot find a birth certificate for my great nan.



No, Robert is the eldest, see Jan57's post re his birth, so Jennie cant have been born in 1906.

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Robert Antonio  Guido  Chiesa   born 29 Dec  1906 6  20am   32 Well St Glasgow   mother  Guilia  Chiesa  maiden name Salotti  father Alessandro  Chiesa Restaurant Keeper

Perhaps they just went back to Italy from Scotland after his birth and Jennie was born there. Then they decided to return to England and settled in Cumbria before the birth of Ralph in 1910. I think the only place you will find her birth or baptism is in Italy. Marg seems to have found where they came from, so hopefully someone with knowledge of Italian records might be able to help.
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #41 on: Monday 07 April 14 13:04 BST (UK) »
Could my great nan be the eldest child?and someone mixed up the dates or maybe they visited their family in Italy and had her there slightly unlikely since they had another young child but possible, it seems this ancestor is trying to be as difficult as possible(compared to my others). I have checked and cannot find a birth certificate for my great nan.



No, Robert is the eldest, see Jan57's post re his birth, so Jennie cant have been born in 1906.

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Robert Antonio  Guido  Chiesa   born 29 Dec  1906 6  20am   32 Well St Glasgow   mother  Guilia  Chiesa  maiden name Salotti  father Alessandro  Chiesa Restaurant Keeper

Perhaps they just went back to Italy from Scotland after his birth and Jennie was born there. Then they decided to return to England and settled in Cumbria before the birth of Ralph in 1910. I think the only place you will find her birth or baptism is in Italy. Marg seems to have found where they came from, so hopefully someone with knowledge of Italian records might be able to help.
Yes, I realized my mistake and amended the name to Robert, its hard going with the two topics, or just another OAP moment, I wonder how old Jennie was on the marriage record
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 20:23 BST (UK) »
Hi there, don't know if you are still looking but I know exactly where your great nan, Jennie was born.
I can send you a birth document. Please get back to me

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 21:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Robert1544,

It would be nice if you could post transcribed details for others possibly researching the same family too which may even encourage them to join RC & engage with others on the thread.

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 10 August 22 16:09 BST (UK) »
HI Mark
if you still looking for the Great Nan's birth record I can help you with precise details. If you already have this, then thats fine