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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 05 April 14 13:41 BST (UK) »
So at some point they must have returned to Italy where Jennie was born in 1908, and then come back to the UK and settled in Cumbria before the birth of Ralph in 1910. It is unfortunate as she seems to be the only child born there, the rest were born in either Scotland or Cumbria.

At least you now have names of her parents and grandparents.
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 05 April 14 13:41 BST (UK) »
Robert Antonio  Guido  Chiesa   born 29 Dec  1906 6  20am   32 Well St Glasgow   mother  Guilia  Chiesa  maiden name Salotti  father Alessandro  Chiesa Restaurant Keeper

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 05 April 14 13:49 BST (UK) »
This looks like the youngest child, Ralph's death

Ralph Chiesa
Birth Date:   21 Mar 1910
Date of Registration:   Jun 1972
Age  62
Whitehaven Cumberland
Volume:   1a  Page:   396

In which case, this is his birth:

Raffa?ilo Chiesa
Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Carlisle Cumberland
Volume:   10b  Page:   570

That certificate would give you his mother's maiden name.

Added: Just seen your post Jan - so mother's maiden name was Salotti.

It looks like Norah Chiesa born in the Whitehaven District of Cumberland in 1914 was their youngest child.

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 05 April 14 14:43 BST (UK) »
Aleesandro d. 55 in 1937 in Cockermouth could be the father of both Mary and your Jennie


As Jorose found, Aleesandro Chiesa died Mar Q 1937 Cockermouth 10b 861.

This could be a remarriage for his widow Julia.
Marriage Dec Q 1943 Cockermouth 10b 1145
Julia Chiesa & Giovanni Solari

Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton


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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 05 April 14 14:50 BST (UK) »
Death Dec Q 1962 Cockermouth 1a 76
Guilia Solari age 78

I cannot see a death for a Julia/Guilia Chiesa, so I think the above is her.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 05 April 14 17:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks to everyone here, sorry I've been away from the computer and only just seen these messages and again thank you to everyone who has helped, I'm going to read through all these messages and check the links but i wanted to say a big thanks first. :)

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 05 April 14 17:19 BST (UK) »
Haven't helped with this thread but just to say well done to everyone but also to say to Mark how everyone on RC appreciates thanks where it's due so your latest post will be very much welcomed!

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 05 April 14 17:32 BST (UK) »
I've read through all the posts and have to say excellent work because i was stumped, this has helped tremendously, so is it safe to assume that my great nan was born in Italy? and could anyone give me tips on how to find out what part of Italy they came from or will this be difficult to find out.

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 05 April 14 18:41 BST (UK) »
 If  you  post   here  ,  there may be someone  who  would  know   re Italian  records,

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