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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #9 on: Friday 04 April 14 21:11 BST (UK) »
I think that might be the problem at the moment, NJ. Looking on Ancestry it does seem quite a common name and a lot emigrated to the USA.
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #10 on: Friday 04 April 14 21:20 BST (UK) »
There are a few with the surname on Ancestry from Argentina.Could the Ralph Chiesa be a possible brother?

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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #11 on: Friday 04 April 14 21:30 BST (UK) »
An internet search revealed that the Italian version of Jennifer/Jennie is Ginevra.  Maybe she was baptised with that name or similar, and anglicised it to Jennie when she came to England.
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 05 April 14 11:29 BST (UK) »
In the Cumberland area there are other Chiesa's - for example Mary b. 1911 in Carlisle may be the same as Mary m. 1936 in Cockermouth district, and the Aleesandro d. 55 in 1937 in Cockermouth could be the father of both Mary and your Jennie (and some other kids).

If you look at the 1911 census ( http://www.1911census.co.uk ) with the surname "CHEESOR" I think there is a possible family in Carlisle - free index info shows a Alexander and Julia with kids Robert, Jennie, and Ralph.
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 05 April 14 11:55 BST (UK) »
If you look at the 1911 census ( http://www.1911census.co.uk ) with the surname "CHEESOR" I think there is a possible family in Carlisle - free index info shows a Alexander and Julia with kids Robert, Jennie, and Ralph.

Certainly looks like them and confirms our suspicions.  ;)
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 05 April 14 12:04 BST (UK) »
Possibly 3  more siblings
 
Births Dec 1911   

Chiesa  Mary  Salotti  Carlisle  10b 1011   

Births Sep 1913   

CHIESA  Joseph  Salotti  Whitehaven  10b 1338   

Births Dec 1914   

CHIESA  Norah  Salotti  Whitehaven  10b 1281   




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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 05 April 14 12:05 BST (UK) »
This looks like the youngest child, Ralph's death

Ralph Chiesa
Birth Date:   21 Mar 1910
Date of Registration:   Jun 1972
Age  62
Whitehaven Cumberland
Volume:   1a  Page:   396

In which case, this is his birth:

Raffa?ilo Chiesa
Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Carlisle Cumberland
Volume:   10b  Page:   570

That certificate would give you his mother's maiden name.

Added: Just seen your post Jan - so mother's maiden name was Salotti.  ;)
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 05 April 14 12:33 BST (UK) »
I don't have a subscription to scotlandspeople, so can't see the details, but a free search shows a Robert Chiesa birth registered in 1906, and an Alessandro Chiesa marriage the same year.  Which would tally with 1911 info.  However there is no sign of a Julia Salotti, although this may be because her name has not been transcribed as such.
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Re: Can't find my Great-Nan's birth record
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 05 April 14 13:31 BST (UK) »
Julia  Salotti   is down  as Guilia Salotti ,      married  on 16 Aug 1906  at 90 1/2 Great Hamilton St  Glasgow  by Declaration   in  presence  of Guiseppe de Prata Restaurant Keeper , and Silvin ? Bertilini Sculptor

Alessandro  Chiesa aged 25 Restaurant Keeper, bachelor , father Guiseppe Chiesa deceased Farmer   mother  Maria, maiden  name  Marcucci

Guilia Salotti  aged 22   spinster, father   Raffaello Salotti, Telegraph Clerk ,    mother   Caterina, maiden  name  Garnucci

address  of bride  and groom  at  time of marriage   76 Gallowgate   Glasgow