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Man (n)ion to N.Z.
« on: Wednesday 14 July 04 23:57 BST (UK) »
Looking for any Man(n)ion's who came to N.Z. in the 1860 - 1870's.

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Re: Man (n)ion to N.Z.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 August 04 10:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Julia

Looking for any Man(n)ion's who came to N.Z. in the 1860 - 1870's.

I have some info on a Mannion family that anglicised to Manning. Not certain of year of emigration at this time.

Catherine Mannion b Bet. 1865 - 1866 Galway, Ireland,
d 20 December, 1943 Christchurch, NZ
Location: Yorkshire, East Riding, Hull. .....Names: Bull, Lee, Barnby
Location: Gloucestershire, Pebworth, Broad-Marston+ .......Names: Wells,Williams.
Location: Cornwall, Padstow area.....Names: Rouse, Chapman
Location: Co Galway....Names: Clancy, Joyce
Location: Hampshire  .....Names: Hall, Bates
Location: Co Fermanagh ..... Names Davis, Carson

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Re: Man (n)ion to N.Z.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 August 10 23:57 BST (UK) »
Ellen Mannion from Killimor/Tynagh emigrtaed to NZ about 1875. She married a John William Laurenson (my great grandparents. Her sister Catherine, and mother Mary(nee Keary, first marriage Lyons), followed about 1885. It is Catherine's line that anglicised the name to Manning.
Please let me know if you want any more information

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Re: Man (n)ion to N.Z.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 September 10 15:14 BST (UK) »
I have Mannion/Mannings in my line
They all currently spell the name Mannion however my grandfather and his brothers were all on the civil records as MANNING but baptised as MANNION/MANION
My aunt of 88 tells me that when she was younger (i.e. in the 1930s & 40s) she was referred to as Miss Manning although she spelt her name Mannion.
If you find any of the above plus Manyon or sometimes Mangan I would investigate a link as it is possible.
Not sure if any of my lot left Ireland as I am finding it hard enough to find the ones I know existed!!
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder


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Re: Man (n)ion to N.Z.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 April 11 07:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Steve
Thank you and congratulations to you and to Roger Manning for your break-through in identifying the origins of Ellen, Catherine and Jeremiah Mannion/Manning and some of their forebears and haunts in in Killimor and Tynagh, Galway.

 I am interested in tracing present-day descendants of Jeremiah and trying to throw some light on fate of his father, John Mannion I have found a few references to Mannions living in Sebastopol who look like possible descendants but before going further I thought I should try to find out whether you had already covered this ground. Roger, in his fascinating description of your joint visit to Killimor and Tynagh has said that you had found references to Jeremiah in Australian records.

On and off for about 15 years I had been looking at some of the same records that you and Roger were researching and have also been to Galway and Ballarat but had come up against dead ends. I didn't know about the 'Jeremiah” and “Keary” variants and didn't make much progress.

I have also seen you other posts on Rootschat and on the Irishtourist website.

I would be grateful for any further information.  My email address is nmnharris(at)gmail.com

Norm
(Descendant of Ellen)

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Re: Man (n)ion to N.Z.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 April 11 07:19 BST (UK) »
Norm,
It's great to hear from you.
It's Monday morning here, and I've got to get off to work. I will reply in detail this evening.
I am also descended from Ellen, via her son Lawrence (my g'father), so we must be related. Where's the link
Will be in touch
Steve

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 April 11 08:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Steve
I'm descended through Lawrence's sister, Eileen (Kirk) and my mother was Ada Harris (nee Kirk). Most of what I know about the Mannions is about 4th hand and some of it, I suspect, is myth, eg that John M was killed by Aboriginals on the Victorian goldfields.
Norm

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Re: Man (n)ion to N.Z.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 April 11 22:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Norm,
Ah-ha - The Kirk family. Although I grew up and lived in Chch until 1977 (haven't been back to NZ since), I can remember meeting some Kirk sisters at the Donaldson's once but I am afraid that is all. It was only when I started out on the family tree exercise about three years ago that I discovered the extent of Lawrence's siblings. Anyway, I'm a Laurenson, my father being Gil, (James Gilbert). So I now have a new cousin!
Anyway I now live in Yorkshire, England, and first met Roger Manning a couple of years ago - a relative that up until then I knew nothing about. Between us we have managed to piece together quite a bit, and Roger has recently got some old photos from Killimor which he is going to send on to me. The Killimor locals are amazingly friendly and helpful - lovely people. Of course you keep encountering the same family names, Keary, Lyons and Mannion, still living in the area.
My whole genealogy quest has uncovered interesting stories right through the various branches of both my mother's and father's families. I am currently trying to trace records of a ggg'father, one Duncan McFarlane who emigrated to Adelaide in 1840, and who, so the story goes, drowned either at the goldfields, or going to them about 1854.
Initially my interest has been to trace where various ancestors came from and maybe understand the pressures/reasons that they emigrated - probably very easy for those of Scottish & Irish origins.
I was interested in the male Mannions, father John, and son, we originally thought to be Gerald, though perhaps is Jeremiah. They emigrated to Oz on the Colonial Empire in 1872. It was only about last June that I started to uncover details of Jeremiah/Gerald.
I have no details of what happened to John. Mary Mannion's death certificate indicated that Gerald/Jeremiah was still alive at the time of her death, so I guess there may well have been some correspondence.. However, as in say the NZ goldfields, people died/disappeared without records
What records I have uncovered are :
  Birth of Gerald Mannion, Sebastopol,  parents Gerald and Ellen Murray.
Marriage: Gerald homas M to Flor Howell, 1917, location not known yet
Death of Gerald Thomas M, at Heid, 1959 aged 73. Years don't quite addup.

There is an article from Ballarat, recording Ellen M, 1st erald's wife, being fined for bad language, following Gerald being knocked out in a fight.
From memory Oz census records record the Geralds living in various locations around Melbourne. By coincidence vatious McFarlane ancestors were also in the same areas.

Presumably you have been in touch with Christine Basket (Donaldson) who did a lot of work before the benefit of the internet. She lives in Tauranga.

That is where I am up to at the moment., I go in fits and starts but was aiming to trace the Melbourne links to see if I could find out more of the male Mannion story. I think my brother Vaughan is due to visit Melbourne several times this year, and am going to ask him to trace what he can. I have found that things stagnate for a while, and then something sparks off another burst of activity

I hope this helps for now, you have probably uncovered the same.

Incidentally our elder daughter, Orla (22) is currently in Queenstown

I rang Roger Manning this morning to say you had been in touch. Roger and I have different styles, but up until now we appear to have complemented each other.

Cheers, and looking forward to hearing from you,
Steve

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Re: Man (n)ion to N.Z.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 April 11 22:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Steve
A lot of interesting information. Your data seem to overlap with what I have found but it looks as though we may have been using some different sources. I live in the Wellington CBD along the street from Parliament and only a short walk from our National Archives and the National Library which a lot over overseas genealogy stuff but so far I have been mostly using the Web.

I'll compare your Austalian Mannion/Manning details with what I've come across (eg in military records) and reply to you by Rootschat Personal Message. I don't want to clutter the Forum with too much detail.

Cheers
Norm

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