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Re: Pool family Leicester
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 April 14 22:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Willsy, Thomas was definitely born in 1797/8 so couldn't be the son of either of these Richards. Richard who married Maria in 1820 is the son of Richard the woolsorter and was baptised at Deal in Kent in 1799 when his father was in the army. I have looked for Thomas's baptism there but there is no trace. I thought he may have been christened later when his father returned to Leicester but I found nothing. He is one very elusive ancestor. Thanks for taking the trouble to look. If I ever solve this I won't have to post it because you will hear me shouting EUREKA!
Sylvia

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Re: Pool family Leicester
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 05 April 14 22:39 BST (UK) »
Funnily enough, have just come across a piece in the paper 20 Mar 1812, premises to be sold by private auction in the Leicester journal. He's in st Mary's, leading on to Harvey Lane.

There is certainly a Richard and Ann same time as Richard and Letita because baptism dates coincide but I can't see a marriage in Leicester.

St Margaret to add
RICHARD & Letitia/Lettice
POOLE    HENRY JAMES    1814   02-Sep

And

RICHARD & MARIA
POOLE    MARY ANN       1827   01-Aug
POOLE    FREDERICK      1830   13-Jan

St Mary

RICHARD & ANN  to coincide with marriage 1810
POOL    RICHARD   1811   09-Oct
POOLE  RICHARD   1816      29-Oct

Have found baptisms of children for a Richard and Ann 1797 and also up to 1810
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Pool family Leicester
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 05 April 14 22:45 BST (UK) »
Yes I was posting as brother/son connected to the family so phew on the right lines! just found another bit in the paper, wondered if you had any info to match this

Leicester Journal 28 February 1812
To be sold by private contract
All that old established Public House, called or known by the name of the Mitre and Key, now in the occupation of Richard Poole, situate in the parish of Saint Mary in Leicester....


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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Pool family Leicester
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 April 14 13:31 BST (UK) »
That was interesting, Willsy, but I found a notice in the Northampton Chronicle dated 9.3.1811 of all places for the death of Richard Poole hosier late keeper of the Mitre and Key Leicester. I am looking for a Richard who was a woolsorter so that rules him out. He must have been the father of Richard who married in 1810 and that is who is mentioned in 1812 re the auction.  I found a christening for a Richard at St Martins in January 1791 father Richard mother Ann but no Thomas.

I also found another Richard and Ann with children christened at St Mary de Castro. The eldest of this set was Andrew Smith Pool 1797 and the youngest Richard in 1816. Yet again no Thomas.

I'm wondering if Thomas meant Leicestershire and not the town of Leicester. There again we have the apprenticeship saying his father was Richard woolsorter of Leicester. Round and round in circles, it makes you feel dizzy.

Thanks for your help.
Sylvia


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Re: Pool family Leicester
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 April 14 19:10 BST (UK) »
I know that feeling!
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Pool family Leicester
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 June 14 00:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Sylvia,

I've just found this thread after replying to your other thread about settlement orders.

As I said on the other thread, I'm descended from Richard Pool's son Joseph. I'm afraid I don't have any information about Thomas, but if you'd like to swap notes about the rest of the family, send me a PM, and we can exchange e-mail addresses.

I had a look at the John Pool will last time I was at Wigston, and made some notes about the main points:

Probate 1803

John Pool of Barlestone, butcher

Legacies to:
- surviving children Sarah, Hannah, Thomas and Ann
- John and Elizabeth, children of deceased son John
- Mary, Elizabeth and John children of deceased son Stephen.
Reference to land in Ratby and Groby occupied by son Thomas.

Executors: son-in-law John Sutton and John Fox of Barleston
Will dated 27/8/1802
Witnesses: Edward Cuthbert, William Wall jr

Signed John Pool (x)

Not at all convinced that this is Richard's father.

Mary
Cassidy (Drogheda, Ireland and Sydney, NSW); Chester (Carleton-in-Craven and Calton, Yorks); Cockshott (Bradley and Silsden, Yorks); Garner (Warwickshire); Grimshaw (Manchester, Lancs, Bradford, Yorks and Sydney, NSW); (Inman (Bradford, Yorks, Sydney and Armidale, NSW); Mallet (Lichfield, Staffs); North (Rothley, Leics); Pool (Ibstock and Leicester, Leics); Slingsby (Bulkington, Warks); Sparkes (Fillongley, Warks and Whittington, Staffs); Throup (Bradley, Silsden and Gargrave, Yorks)

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Re: Pool family Leicester
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 12 June 14 15:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary,

I have outlined my connection to Richard Pool in my reply to you re. Settlements. I have a copy of John's will dated 1802. I think he was Richard's grandfather and his son John who married Rebecca Fowkes was Richard's father.  Son John only got a shilling in his father's will and Richard and his children were not mentioned.  I found a notice under bankruptcy for John Pool butcher of Barlestone in the Universal Magazine of Knowledge & Pleasure dated 5.1.1790.  Which John this was I do not know but John who died in 1802 seemed to have plenty of assets so I suspect it was his son.

Not sure how to PM you but will have a go.

Regards, Sylvia Howard