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Offline kimber1

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Help with a warrant
« on: Friday 28 March 14 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Hello All,

I've found a reference on National Archives for the following Warrant in East Grinstead:-

6th June 1774 John Carman husbandman, married. Has run away from wife and family.

Does anyone know if it's possible to find out what, if anything, happened afterwards. Would he have been forced to go back to his family for example?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Help with a warrant
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 March 14 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The poor law records for Sussex don't give any more information - other than that his family is chargeable to the parish.

It might be relevant (or totally unrelated) - an Elizabeth Carman gives birth to at least two children in East Grinstead, John Prevott Carman in 1780 and Mary Carman in 1784 - Mary has "bb" (baseborn) by her entry which would suggest her mother was unmarried - or perhaps single for a different reason? 

Also, perhaps the Prevott is a clue to the father of at least John - there is a family of that name in East Grinstead at that time.

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Re: Help with a warrant
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 March 14 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Liz,

I had seen John and Mary tho I'm more interested in William bap 1878 parents John & Elizabeth. He's my 3x g/grandad but now I'm wondering if he was actually a Carman. Maybe John came back but then did another runner  ;D

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Re: Help with a warrant
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 March 14 21:02 GMT (UK) »
 ;) Well William does have both parents mentioned by name and there isn't another couple of those names in East Grinstead - or anywhere in Sussex at that time according to the SMI.  Carman is quite an unusual name - perhaps he did go back for a bit and then left when Elizabeth had an affair with Mr Prevott.  Is your William the one whose military papers are at the NA? 

I think my next move would be to carefully study the parish register (rather than transcripts) and look for patterns in the way baptisms were recorded and also to see if there were any parish notebooks or similar for East Grinstead available to see if there were any mention of members of the Carman family.  East Grinstead is a big parish though so it might take a long time - and of course, you may not be able to get to Chichester to do this.  Wills may also give some hints and Chancery bills can be really exciting  8)

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Re: Help with a warrant
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 March 14 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Yes that is my William. Unfortunately I live in Wiltshire so wouldn't be able to spend the time needed in Chichester.
I have found a will for Johns brother Charles who died in EG in 1811. He mentions that John is deceased and leaves £5 to his son James (b 1771) but no mention of William, although he had been in the army for 12 yrs or more by then so could have been forgotten about.
I think Elizabeth is probably the 1786 EG burial but there doesn't seem to be one for a John and I haven't found a likely one anywhere else yet. Problem with all the Carmans is that they move back and forth between Sussex, Surrey and Kent  ::)
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