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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 March 14 14:28 GMT (UK) »
How about this marriage -

December quarter 1861 - Ashton Registration District 8d, page 727 - Thomas Smith and Mary Ann Hague appear on the same page.

1891 census says Mary Ann Smith born Stockport.

In 1871 Thomas and Mary Ann. Have lots of Platt children including Alice and Hannah.
There is a Benjamin Wild/e and Hannah Maria Hague marriage and Harold Clayton is with them in censuses.
Not sure where Platt comes into this puzzle.

I think they are all Hagues and one son has Platt as a middle name and they have all been dittoed.
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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 March 14 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Smith already had Platt children in 1861.  Perhaps they were stepchildren.

NB there is a Stockport-born Mary Ann Hague in Saddleworth in 1861 who looks a likely bride for Thomas, but oddly her daughter Alice is already aged 11.  Alice already has an occupation so the age can't be hugely overstated.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 March 14 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Smith already has Platt children in 1861.  Perhaps they were stepchildren.

Oh dear and I thought I had understood it. I found Ralph William as Hague  ???

Maybe it was yours, mine and ours :)
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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 27 March 14 14:49 GMT (UK) »
1851  2239/426/ 23

Mary Ann Hague 24 yrs born Stockport
with husband Samuel, son Ralph William in household of parents in law Samuel and Hannah Hague
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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 March 14 14:50 GMT (UK) »
Yès there may be a lot of half and step siblings intermingled in that 1871 household.

In 1861 Thomas Smith has children as follows:

John Platt 19
Molly (or Mally?) Platt 13
Mary Platt 10
Miranda Smith 4
Lucy Hannah Smith 1

RG9/3238/95/52
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 27 March 14 14:58 GMT (UK) »
1861 3239/ 20/33
Walkers Lane Springhead

Mary A Hague head widow 36 yrs born Stockport
Harriet Slater daughter 17 yrs b Bugsworth Derbyshire
Alice Hague 11 yrs b Saddleworth
Samuel Hague 2 yrs b Saddleworth

Still not very straightforward
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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 27 March 14 15:02 GMT (UK) »

Still not very straightforward

Agreed; we would expect Alice to be about aged 2 at this date.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 27 March 14 15:05 GMT (UK) »
Agreed; we would expect Alice to be about aged 2 at this date.

Mmm - checked and it does say 11 - they are transposed because Samuel should be 11 yrs!

I think the family are in Walkers Lane later with Thomas
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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 27 March 14 15:10 GMT (UK) »
There is a Harriet Slater with her maternal Slater grandparents in 1851 in Stayley.

1849 marriage Samuel Haigh and Mary Ann Slater may be relevant
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