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Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« on: Thursday 27 March 14 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

Am stuck on the parentage of Leonard Clayton born © 1885 Springhead Yorkshire.  Everything is pointing to John Clayton but I have found a marriage Cert stating George which throws all my research out of the window.

I hope you can help me?

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 March 14 10:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi MJB

I see that Leonard (5 b Springhead) and probable brother Harold (7 b Springhead) are with grandparents Thomas and Mary Ann Smith in Saddleworth in 1891.  If this is your Leonard, have you traced the Smiths and any marriage of a daughter of theirs to a Mr Clayton?

Obviously the birth cert for Leonard (Sep qtr 1885 or Mar qtr 1886 Saddleworth) would establish his parentage for you.  If he was orphaned young then in later life he may have been mistaken about his father's given name.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 March 14 10:16 GMT (UK) »
I see that YorkshireBMD shows two boys called Leonard Clayton registered in the Delph subdistrict of Saddleworth in 1885.  The first had mother's maiden name Brooks, the second Hague.

One Harold Clayton was born in the same subdistrict in 1883, mother's maiden name Hague.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 March 14 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Freebmd shows George Clayton and Alice Hague on the same page of marriages, Dec qtr 1877 Saddleworth 9a 437.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 March 14 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Clayton births with mmn Hague (and deaths) in Delph subdistrict, from YorkshireBMD:

George, 1878 (poss death 1878 aged 0)
Samuel, 1879 (poss death 1890 aged 10)
Harold, 1881 (poss death 1882 aged 0)
Harold, 1883
Leonard, 1885
Annie, 1888 (poss death 1889 aged 0)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 March 14 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Really good work  ;)  I've been all over the place!

There is a death for Alice Clayton 1890 born 1859 which fits with 1881
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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 March 14 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Yes the Alice death looks likely - again registered in Delph subdistrict.

I am not easily finding the link to Thomas Smith from the 1891, though wondering whether he was a stepfather to either George or Alice.  He was widowed in 1861; remarried to Mary Ann by 1871.

Added: in 1871 there is a 12 yo daur Alice in the Smith household - wonder whether she started life as Alice Hague. 1871 ref is RG10/4333/76/24.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 March 14 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Wow  Thank you looks like I have a lot of work to do, very complicated what this is throwing up.

MJB

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Re: Springhead/Saddleworth Baptism Leonard Clayton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 March 14 13:17 GMT (UK) »
How about this marriage -

December quarter 1861 - Ashton Registration District 8d, page 727 - Thomas Smith and Mary Ann Hague appear on the same page.

1891 census says Mary Ann Smith born Stockport.



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