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Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
« on: Sunday 23 March 14 18:46 GMT (UK) »
I have an entry from the 1851 census for Edward Evans.
He would be born approx 1798 but I can't identify the exact birthplace from the 1851 census entry (in Habberley, Shropshire) I have attached the birthplace entry image below. I would be grateful if anyone could suggest where this is.
The nearest I could match is Montgomeryshire LLangyniew. (though the ending looks like "ion" in the census image)
According to a marriage certificate for his 2nd marriage in 1865  (at the age of 67) his father was Evan Evans, Flannel Weaver
Incidentally I could not find Edward on the 1861 census and the 1871 entry not very helpfully says he was born in "Wales" so this is the only cenus I have showing a birthplace.

Many thanks,
Jeremy

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Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 March 14 21:02 GMT (UK) »
What was his first wife's name?

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 March 14 22:01 GMT (UK) »
I'm not finding the 1851 entry in Shropshire?Give details of the entry please?

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 March 14 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Well its no wonder I couldn't find the 1851 entry as stated in Shropshire,the entry is showing in Habberley Montgomeryshire!
HO107/2498/395/16.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 March 14 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Whilst it could well be Llangyniew,the enumerator must have thought there was an ink shortage!He has sought to write as small as possible!

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 March 14 18:23 GMT (UK) »
There is the following possibility:

There is an Evan Evans-Hand Loom Weaver(Flannel),widower in the 1851 census at Caersws

HO107  2496  434  2

This could well be him in 1841-Woollen Weaver at Llanlllugan

HO107  1440  7/7  8

There is then this baptism for Edward Evans at Llanllugan in late 1795

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KC1N-KJC

There is a property called Rhosydd Gwynion in Llanllugan.None of this a perfect match but worth considering.

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Roger

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Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 March 14 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your replies.
sorry - I omitted the 1851 census reference. I think Habberley did change county at least once - parts of it were either side of the border at that time.
The Caersws entry could be interesting - I know from a potted chapel history that Edward was preaching at the chapel in Caersws around 1830 before he moved to Shropshire in 1832/3 to become the Baptist Minister.
I'll check out the LLanllugan entries.
Jeremy
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