Children of Thomas & Mary COLLINGRIDGE 1805-1814, Brackley

[seahall]

Hi again.

There is a Criminal Register entry for 11th April 1839 saying Ann was
22 and was given a month in jail.

Sandy

[Connie Sparrow]

I have to disagree.

Ann baptised 1815 was the daughter of Thomas and Ann in the original register.

Although on the original marriage certificate a William is a witness, neither he or Ann sign their names.

Ann as the mother could be a mistake (the assumption the first daughter must have been named after her mother/grandmother) but I will delete Ann which also means I will have to delete William as well plus all his descendents since I don't know now who Ann and William were or who their parents were.  Thomas the glover and his family were the only ones I knew about.

I don't have anything in my notes about a Thomas marrying an Ann.

[Connie Sparrow]

Hi again.

There is a Criminal Register entry for 11th April 1839 saying Ann was
22 and was given a month in jail.

Thank you for having a look.

This Ann isn't a part of my part of the tree.  The Ann I incorrectly had would have been 24

It looks as though Thomas and Elizabeth only had a daughter, Hannah, who I have bapt 4 July 1822 and buried 7 May 1825 but  I don't think that's right either since Thomas would have been 48 and Elizabeth would have been 43.  She would have been too old.

I think I'd best scrap all this side of the tree.  Someone else on this side has independently made the same mistake as I have.

[seahall]

Goodness me there is no need to do that. 

It was possible it was an error by the Vicar if he made the entry at a later date
on the baptism entry.

I think the fact neither could write means William could have been the plasters labourer
who went with his family to Lambeth being there in 1861?.

If you would like me to look at the originals Brackley P.R.'s for you if you could give me
some dates it might help to link the families.

Sandy

[seahall]

Maybe if you can start with what you know to be correct we can work backwards.

George James who Ann married was from Syresham and is there with Ann on the 1851.

P.S. My mother was 43 when I was born.

Sandy

[Connie Sparrow]

Goodness me there is no need to do that. 

It was possible it was an error by the Vicar if he made the entry at a later date
on the baptism entry.

I think the fact neither could write means William could have been the plasters labourer
who went with his family to Lambeth being there in 1861?.

If you would like me to look at the originals Brackley P.R.'s for you if you could give me
some dates it might help to link the families.

I believe baptism and burial registers were made up later rather than at the time.  I've certainly seen registers where the mother's name is missing but is present in previous and subsequent baptisms.

Yes, I think William did end up in London.  The Lambeth family is a pretty close match for the Brackley one.

The only information I am now certain of is that Thomas was baptised 2 Mar 1777, son of Christopher and Ann (nee GARDINER) in Finmere, Oxon.  There's nothing in the notes I have that give the marriage of Thomas to a Mary.  There's apparently a removal order for Thomas and Mary back to Brackley St Peter from another Brackley parish.  I don't think that would have happened if he was a glover but is more likely if he was a labourer of some sort.

Thank you for your kind offer but please don't worry.  It seems unlikely the Brackley family is anything to do with my own line.  Thank you also for pointing out my error.

[Connie Sparrow]

Maybe if you can start with what you know to be correct we can work backwards.

George James who Ann married was from Syresham and is there with Ann on the 1851.

P.S. My mother was 43 when I was born.

The Ann I had was bapt 1815, this one was born 1822.  Ann Elizabeth is now Hannah.  Little wonder I couldn't find them.  The Elizabeth GIBBS (widow of a Mr BLACKWELL) who married a Thomas COLLINGRIDGE was apparently from Syresham. 

Medical care by the mid 1900s and later had improved considerably over that of 1822 when little Hannah was born